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Theo will leave such a mess when he departs the Cubs will be a 70-80 win team well into the mid 2020s or longer.

A two or three year drop to the 75 win mark was pretty much always expected as part of Theo's departure. If they had won a second WS, nobody would have minded.

I'm a believer in the similarity between the playoff progression of the 83-90 Bears and the 14-21 Cubs. If I'm right, the down seasons are coming soon, and the Cubs will be massive traders this July.


Not buying it. Cubs would have made the playoffs last year with a decent bullpen. The Reds are overrated same as they were last offseason. 87 to 91 wins will win the NL Central. Cubs can realistically pull that off.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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But I could also see him go ing to play in Korea and looking for fresh submissive pussy over there.


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Jesus! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Wittenmeyer on Leery now calling the Cubs a 500 team next year so far. Saying keeping all these guys together now is dumb. Not saying blow it up but saying they are way behind baseball as it is today.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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That is a pretty accurate assessment.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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The Orioles essentially gave away Villar for nothing.

Not sure why the Cubs didn't bite. He's cost controlled so you don't need to give him a long term contract. He immediately slots in as your starting 2B, and if Javy gets hurt at SS, he can cover that position. He also adds a much needed element of speed to the team.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Wittenmeyer on Leery now calling the Cubs a 500 team next year so far. Saying keeping all these guys together now is dumb. Not saying blow it up but saying they are way behind baseball as it is today.


I don't think the Cubs are a .500 team as it stands now, but they are a hell of a lot closer to a .500 team than they are to a 90+ win team.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Wittenmeyer is a douchebag. Lot of bad takes from him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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I was surprised they weren't in on Villar. Probably didn't want to take playing time from Delscalso.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Team speed, for chrissakes...

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Interesting thoughts from Jesse Rogers this morning on ESPN1000 saying he thinks Bryant will be traded and that Theo will leave after 2021 when his contract runs out and that Jed will take over. Nothing new here of course and Jesse stated these are his opinions.

ATL seems to be a good trade partner for Bryant and a market does seem to be emerging for whichever teams don't get Rendon and Donaldson. Let's hope if this does happen we get at least 3 high end, close to MLB ready prospects plus at least 1 other legit prospect. ATL seems to have a 3rd basemen close to MLB ready who they could plug in immediately in addition to a highly regarded switch hitting CF prospect and they have highly regarded pitching too. A 4 or 5 for 1 deal is what makes sense to unload Bryant plus that frees up his 18M anticipated salary for this season which can allocated to fill other holes of course.

And then maybe extend both Contreras and Baez??

As to Theo leaving, whatever. He delivered 2016 so hats off but he is not some baseball god like he was portrayed to be and he throws money around like a drunken sailor and has not built an organization that is producing young talent consistently. However promoting Barney Fife, a.k.a. Jed, is not something I favor. I just don 't see him as a legit top dog.

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/201 ... llar-more/

Thus, at The Athletic, Atlanta writer David O’Brien says “a trade for Kris Bryant is one possibility” to replace Donaldson’s production at the plate/on the field, and he’s not even the latest to bring it up. In supporting piece, MLB.com echoes the Braves interest in adding a third baseman, while conceding that Anthony Rendon is out of their price range and Josh Donaldson may end up too pricey, as well. They go further, however, suggesting that the Cubs would be open to dealing Bryant and even beginning to discuss a potential return: “The Cubs might be interested in third baseman Austin Riley as a replacement for Bryant, or Drew Waters (MLB Pipeline’s No. 23 overall prospect) as someone who can fill the club’s void in center field. The Braves also have a number of highly-touted pitching prospects, including Ian Anderson (No. 31 overall) and Kyle Wright (No. 35 overall).”
Likelihood aside, each of those prospects are very interesting. I’m a particularly big fan of Waters’ fit into the Cubs short-term plans, as a switch-hitting center fielder with speed, who’s already reached Triple-A, and Riley’s obviously got big-bat potential and is projected to stick at third base (where he could replace Bryant immediately). And, of course, the Cubs would be thrilled to get any top-30ish pitching prospects into this system, especially ones who are big-league ready, so both Anderson and Wright catch my eye. Put differently, I really like how the Braves match up with the Cubs as trade partners. If he’s going to go, they have as good of a system as any to pick from, as Brett highlighted yesterday when discussing the Braves fit relative to the Rangers fit.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Interesting thoughts from Jesse Rogers this morning on ESPN1000 saying he thinks Bryant will be traded and that Theo will leave after 2021 when his contract runs out and that Jed will take over. Nothing new here of course and Jesse stated these are his opinions.

ATL seems to be a good trade partner for Bryant and a market does seem to be emerging for whichever teams don't get Rendon and Donaldson. Let's hope if this does happen we get at least 3 high end, close to MLB ready prospects plus at least 1 other legit prospect. ATL seems to have a 3rd basemen close to MLB ready who they could plug in immediately in addition to a highly regarded switch hitting CF prospect and they have highly regarded pitching too. A 4 or 5 for 1 deal is what makes sense to unload Bryant plus that frees up his 18M anticipated salary for this season which can allocated to fill other holes of course.

And then maybe extend both Contreras and Baez??

As to Theo leaving, whatever. He delivered 2016 so hats off but he is not some baseball god like he was portrayed to be and he throws money around like a drunken sailor and has not built an organization that is producing young talent consistently. However promoting Barney Fife, a.k.a. Jed, is not something I favor. I just don 't see him as a legit top dog.

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/201 ... llar-more/

Thus, at The Athletic, Atlanta writer David O’Brien says “a trade for Kris Bryant is one possibility” to replace Donaldson’s production at the plate/on the field, and he’s not even the latest to bring it up. In supporting piece, MLB.com echoes the Braves interest in adding a third baseman, while conceding that Anthony Rendon is out of their price range and Josh Donaldson may end up too pricey, as well. They go further, however, suggesting that the Cubs would be open to dealing Bryant and even beginning to discuss a potential return: “The Cubs might be interested in third baseman Austin Riley as a replacement for Bryant, or Drew Waters (MLB Pipeline’s No. 23 overall prospect) as someone who can fill the club’s void in center field. The Braves also have a number of highly-touted pitching prospects, including Ian Anderson (No. 31 overall) and Kyle Wright (No. 35 overall).”
Likelihood aside, each of those prospects are very interesting. I’m a particularly big fan of Waters’ fit into the Cubs short-term plans, as a switch-hitting center fielder with speed, who’s already reached Triple-A, and Riley’s obviously got big-bat potential and is projected to stick at third base (where he could replace Bryant immediately). And, of course, the Cubs would be thrilled to get any top-30ish pitching prospects into this system, especially ones who are big-league ready, so both Anderson and Wright catch my eye. Put differently, I really like how the Braves match up with the Cubs as trade partners. If he’s going to go, they have as good of a system as any to pick from, as Brett highlighted yesterday when discussing the Braves fit relative to the Rangers fit.


Etch it in stone, Jesse reported it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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From the it will never happen dept are rumors Cubs attempting to bundle Bryant or Contreras with Heyward to reshuffle their financial deck.

The scary thing is I don't have the confidence in Theo that if such a deal got done that he wouldn't blow the money again on the next Heyward.


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From the it will never happen dept are rumors Cubs attempting to bundle Bryant or Contreras with Heyward to reshuffle their financial deck.

The scary thing is I don't have the confidence in Theo that if such a deal got done that he wouldn't blow the money again on the next Heyward.

It makes talks with Atlanta more interesting, as they still love Heyward there. And they really need a 3B next season.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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From the it will never happen dept are rumors Cubs attempting to bundle Bryant or Contreras with Heyward to reshuffle their financial deck.

The scary thing is I don't have the confidence in Theo that if such a deal got done that he wouldn't blow the money again on the next Heyward.


Mike Murphy vibe.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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Pains me to say it, but if someone set the over/under at 4.5 seasons before the Cubs reach another NLCS, I’d have to take the over.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/201 ... llar-more/

Thus, at The Athletic, Atlanta writer David O’Brien says “a trade for Kris Bryant is one possibility” to replace Donaldson’s production at the plate/on the field, and he’s not even the latest to bring it up. In supporting piece, MLB.com echoes the Braves interest in adding a third baseman, while conceding that Anthony Rendon is out of their price range and Josh Donaldson may end up too pricey, as well. They go further, however, suggesting that the Cubs would be open to dealing Bryant and even beginning to discuss a potential return: “The Cubs might be interested in third baseman Austin Riley as a replacement for Bryant, or Drew Waters (MLB Pipeline’s No. 23 overall prospect) as someone who can fill the club’s void in center field. The Braves also have a number of highly-touted pitching prospects, including Ian Anderson (No. 31 overall) and Kyle Wright (No. 35 overall).”
Likelihood aside, each of those prospects are very interesting. I’m a particularly big fan of Waters’ fit into the Cubs short-term plans, as a switch-hitting center fielder with speed, who’s already reached Triple-A, and Riley’s obviously got big-bat potential and is projected to stick at third base (where he could replace Bryant immediately). And, of course, the Cubs would be thrilled to get any top-30ish pitching prospects into this system, especially ones who are big-league ready, so both Anderson and Wright catch my eye. Put differently, I really like how the Braves match up with the Cubs as trade partners. If he’s going to go, they have as good of a system as any to pick from, as Brett highlighted yesterday when discussing the Braves fit relative to the Rangers fit.


Etch it in stone, Jesse reported it.

Have no idea the ages of those prospect but Atlanta would getting Bryant for those bums would be highway robbery


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy



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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy



You’re a terrible poster and human


Sick back down in your wheelchair, Rick.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Cubs Offseason
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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.


Hope so

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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.


Hope so


Bryants a beta, but I feel the Cubs have no chance of winning a trade for him. These usually end up with 5 prospects coming back and all of them shit.


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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy



Never wanted these fucks to buy the club. I wanted Cuban.

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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy



Never wanted these fucks to buy the club. I wanted Cuban.

They fucked the renovation budget up by 100%. That's why they are crying poor now.


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So it seems like Daddy Ricketts financial troubles are impacting the organization? When the old emails came out Tommy couldn't wait to distance itself from daddy



You’re a terrible poster and human


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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.


Hope so


Bryants a beta, but I feel the Cubs have no chance of winning a trade for him. These usually end up with 5 prospects coming back and all of them shit.


Atlanta has alot of pitchers in their system.

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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.

Only if the grievance is resolved. Once it is, he is gone the day after both Tendon and Donaldson sign.

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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.

Only if the grievance is resolved. Once it is, he is gone the day after both Tendon and Donaldson sign.


Hopefully Tendon isn’t torn.

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By this time next week, Bryant will be an ex-Cub.

Only if the grievance is resolved. Once it is, he is gone the day after both Tendon and Donaldson sign.


Hopefully Tendon isn’t torn.

Fucking spell check.

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Spiegs on now with LoHo and the memo is out I swear. Every show today is on and on about how the Cubs issues with money are what they are and they didn't develop more players.

Bernsie was particularly irksome as he never wanted to talk about exactly where the waves of talent or the endless streams of revenue are?

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