and he's better this year...you wanted proof I gave it to you....he really put the clamps on Harden yesterday....go away with your bullshit

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

You quoted year old information and tried to pass it off as if it is current. Get the hell out of here dumbass.

Now his assignment is Harden. What a damn dimwitted idiot you happen to be.

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Not a big as dumbass to be Pranked by Frank

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

So much of a dumbass that you actually believe that it worked. Not really all that surprising either

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you wanted proof I gave you proof...and just where did I try to pass it off as current?
His assignment was Harden and Harden and he had a 11 career high against Parker ….now go away and stay away

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

You tried to pass this off as current information dumbass.

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He wasn't even "worst" at his position let alone worst in the league last year.


You keep pumping this lying BS.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/ ... position/6

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Kyle Lowry back tonight vs Heat

I was hoping to say that Miami finally won a signature game but I can't. Lowry and Siakim stunk up the gym.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

watching Heat/Raptors last night. Two teams that are contending for the conference. Both rotations are filled with mid-level first rounders, undrafted FAs, midpriced vets. I'm not sure there's a relevant lottery pick on either roster.

So:
A. the idea you have to tank to get good is BS, and
B. the Bulls front office is unbelievably bad.

That is all.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I'd rather be Dallas or Philly than either one of those two

Neither has a snowball's chance in hell of making the Conf Finals let alone NBA Finals this year.

I don't think anyone ever said "you must tank in order to win Championships" or compete for them.

However if you ask me what the best way to contend and contend immediately happens to be if you are a shitty team it would be tanking.

Took Dallas one year to bounce back after tanking.

Miami hasn't been shit since Lebron left 5 years ago.

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Philly did a complete tank for four years and are not likely to win a title either. I'm not even sure Dallas tried to tank. they were just smart enough to trade up for the future GOAT.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Dallas had a #5 pick with which to trade with. That pick was a result of tanking. Philly barring injury should come out of the East and Just last year took the team that won the title to 7 games and probably beat them if not for a one in a million shot.

The only reason that the tank job didn't come to fruition sooner is because the guys that were the principals of it (Embiid and Simmons) were injured for the first 2-3 years of it (in Embiid's case) they have only been playing together for 3 years and they have been contenders in each of those years.

The tank was also hindered because of the ineptitude of a GM that wasn't the architect of it. Sam Hinkie was the genius mind behind it and the league forced Philly to fire him so that crony capitalist Bryan Colangelo could get a GM job. He damn near destroyed everything with bonehead move after bonehead move. Thank god they have Elton Brand calling the shots now

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Both teams get after it defensively. They are physical. That's something most of the NBA can't quite bring themselves to do.

Yup. Impossible to argue

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I'm making a prediction. The physicality of defense will make a comeback. Well, I hope anyway. There are some very sore bodies this morning after that Raptor/Heat game.

Miami has been blasted by just about every elite team that they have faced this year. Up until last night that is.

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I'm aware. I'm trying to address Hatchetman's very good points. 15-5 is still an over achievement. I believe my point is worth discussion. It's rare you see the physicality of last night's game.

Yeah they are physical.

Dallas is proving that tanking works however. They have Doncic Porzingus (who hasn't been all that good so far) and a bunch of nothing.

Philly probably comes out of the East this year.

If the Bulls had played their cards correctly and went all in on the tank instead of half assing it we wouldn't be here bitching game after game about how shitty of a franchise that they happen to be.

That one player would have made all of the difference. They had a chance to do it but they screwed it up. Just as MANY here said at the time.

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To a certain extent, and me especially, Toronto was a fluke last year. All the concentration was on Kawhi. But Toronto as a whole gets after it physically on defense. I think I kinda overlooked that last year.

Gun to my head, I'd also have to pick Philly coming out of the East. Celtics are also really talented. But Emblid is the WC. He has every tool to DESTROY.

Dallas won 24 games in 2017 versus the Bulls 27. That's random chance.

And Porzingus is garbage. they won't win with just Doncic.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

pretty amazing they are playing so well with Porzingus being so bad. They've loaded that team up with pick n roll dunk dunkers and 3 point shooters.

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No the Bulls would have placed themselves in a position to either A Draft Doncic or B. Trade for him simply by losing a few more games. They didn't even need to garner the No. 1 pick. Anywhere from 1-5 as we saw gets it done. Instead they won some meaningless games for the sake of god knows what and ended up with the 7th pick. There was nothing random about it. All they had to do was lose a few more games and they decided against it. They also could have traded Mirotic a lot earlier too. Instead they ended up with a useless late round pick.

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the 7 and 22nd might have gotten it done too, we don't know.

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Embiid 26 points 21 boards..... meaningless

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I see Willy Nilly is at again. You'd think he'd have tapped out from constant embarrassment but i guess not.

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The Cream of the East lost to the Wizards....if Youngs 39 10 are meaning less these are not

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Philly was not blown out. Atlanta is frequently blown out.

Scoring 39 in a game to the Rockets in which you are down 30 at halftime and lose by 50 is meaningless. If you don't understand that there is a difference then you really are an idiot. Then again i already knew that anyway.

I'm also not up here posting Embiid's stats from last night dumbass. You are.

If you don't understand why they are called "meaningless" then read a book on it.

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Knicks are a joke.

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