There is no doubt at this point what is holding this team back. Nagy is the problem.

The issue is whether its even remotely possible that Ryan Pace sees this and does what needs to be done. The truth is, if you're Ryan Pace, is you have to realize that Nagy is almost certainly going to cost you your job at some point. If not next off-season than the next off-season after. He cannot do it. He was given the keys to a ludicrously talented roster with a quarterback who only started to consistently show his considerable raw talent after he began blowing off Nagy and doing whatever he wants.

The Bears would be an attractive job. They'd find a really good candidate. The only way this feels even feasible is if the feud with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky boils over and puts the Bears in a position where keeping both is impossible.

He has three more years on his contract. He isn't going anywhere you loon.

Nagy is a great leader of men but he sucks calling plays.

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That, plus lets say the Bears finish 8-8, it's going to be incredibly tough to fire a coach after he goes 20-12 in his first two seasons as head coach, with the 3 years remaining on the deal like you said. Zero chance Nagy isn't the head coach of this team next year.

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Even a mom and pop shop like the Bears can watch $12m or so (it's actually hard to find the specific terms of Nagy's deal) go up in smoke and be fine.

Yea it'd be different if he went 20-12 with the Washington Redskins roster. Fact is Pace built a very talented defense and found some really dangerous weapons and it's just been wasted. And then there's the very strong possibility Nagy has botched developing (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Just having a nice record doesn't offset all the bungling he's done.

It really does to an extent, especially following Fox and Trestman's tenures. This isn't firing Lovie after a 10 win season when the franchise had become fatigued by 9-10 win seasons.

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Nagy still has the locker room and the players respect him which means something. Silly to reboot this. I would like to see him turn the playcalling over to someone else such as former Oregon head coach Steve Helfrich.

The franchise should be fatigued from mediocre to bad quarterback play. Fix that before you attempt fix anything else.



And it is Mark Helfrich.

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Trestman and Nagy are cut from the same cloth. Nagy is at least a bit more of a red ass, but they aren't too dissimilar.

Fox got a bunch of money and the right to call himself a head coach for three more years than he deserved to shepherd the Bears through a complete overhaul of the roster. He was hired to transition away from Trestman, there was no plan to keep him long term.

I agree. Nagy may be great at designing plays but he's stubborn, predictable and has a bad feel for the game.

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Nothing alike. Trestman had passive aggressive discipline issues from day one and by year 2 players just quit on him. There has been zero whispers of that now in 2 years for Nagy. It will be interesting to see if they still show up and compete the last 2 games, I think they will.

He benched the quarterback he was specifically hired to develop with a fake injury in a game that now looms colossally over their season. That quarterback clearly has had enough of Nagy in the wake of that decision and actually since then has looked way better tuning Nagy out.

What Nagy did @LA was very very similar to what Trestman did putting Clausen in for Cutler.

He's a coordinator who shouldn't have playcalling duties.

I'm also not a fan of these guys who cannot actually shoulder the load of being an actual head coach and need to share that job with a Head Coach of the Defense like Fangio or Pagano. All the bad feeling I got from Nagy after blowing the lead week one in his first season wound up being 100% correct.

What he's done with the locker room can't be discounted. Even Lovie had leaks. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky appears to be the only guy who has attempted to challenge Nagy.

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After which Mitch responded with some of his best games as a pro.

Is that because of Nagy? I dont think so at all. I think under a competent coach we could've seen this out of Mitch last year.

nagy was barely even a playcaller before we hired him to be head coach.... he has his hands full trying to figure out how to call plays and isnt able to focus on oversight of the entire team

Really? Didn't Mitch basically tell everyone yesterday that he thinks Nagy is an idiot?

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Its easy to have a locker room when you're winning. Let's see how this shakes out now that the Bears are mathematically eliminated and fingers start getting pointed. They benefited from a hopefully narrative these last few weeks and it staved off the reckoning. Well, now the reckoning is here.

Mitch said postgame several times what he and his teammates actually wanted to do. When they were finally allowed they had success offensively.

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With most teams the defense would be complaining loudly and other players would as well. He's found a way to avoid that.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been saying it all season but until we saw what he wanted to do actual work he was essentially dismissed. If we're all being honest it's clear his stubbornness has hurt the Bears.

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They failed offensively because they couldn't run against a bad run defense. Perhaps Nagy needs to go I formation more but clearly Montgomery has bad vision and James Daniels is an undersized pussy that gets pushed around. A 2nd round lineman should be dominating now.

The Bears are stubbornly running an offense that has fallen out of favour league-wide. Truth is if Nagy hasn't given up the slow-developing spread run plays by now, he never will.

I find it laughable this is some kind of sleeping offensive juggernaut that's being held back by Nagy's playcalling but I guess recency bias is the hallmark of sports radio and discussion. They put up 31 against a defense people were falling over to describe as "good" that padded it's stats playing in the pathetic NFC East. When they played the NFC Central teams they gave up 34, 31, 28, and 27. They never bothered to spy Mitch, and the Pack, who aren't idiots, merely had Blake Martinez stand around to disrupt things.

I think Kenny Clark now has legal ownership of James Daniels

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Bears can spin it all they want but they had to switch because Daniels was shitting himself at center. What makes them think he can play guard? Guards need to be maulers like Q. Nelson.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been making throws these last few weeks that would be very difficult for any defense to stop. He's been putting it where only his guys can get it. All while being under constant duress and a collapsing pocket more often than not. This is not a case of bumslaying like it was when the Bears shredded Tampa Bay and the Lions through the air last season. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is making real plays.

Kenny Clark is good, but the Bears couldn't run the ball against the Pack even when they had six defensive backs in the game. Bad offensive scheme, bad blocking, bad everything.

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