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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:39 am 
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Getting people to talk on the phone is near impossible.

I went back to a flip phone for mental health reasons so I really dont want to text anything more than "omw" or "here" or "ok" with the numbers...and calling people just to ask a simple question is like pulling teeth. It is a bit funny too, since I have had these same conversations via text and it can take hours to accomplish what a phone call can in less than one-hundred twenty seconds.


right. that being said, there's a good contingent of people who are going back to appreciating talking on phone.

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I think I’m with the meatless guy. In almost all cases I want something done, I turn to skype, not email.

And while we are at it... who leaves voice mails anymore?

Right, Skype or Slack is great for in house day to day communication email serves a different function. At least in my industry it would be insane to communicate and send documents to folks all around the country in that type of medium.

Anyone who says email is going obsolete within 10 years is simply ignorant of how it’s used in a variety of industries that aren’t going away.

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I think I’m with the meatless guy. In almost all cases I want something done, I turn to skype, not email.

And while we are at it... who leaves voice mails anymore?

Right, Skype or Slack is great for in house day to day communication email serves a different function. At least in my industry it would be insane to communicate and send documents to folks all around the country in that type of medium.

Anyone who says email is going obsolete within 10 years is simply ignorant of how it’s used in a variety of industries that aren’t going away.

These are the same kids who think the economy is stacked against them and everything is hopeless yet they cannot be fucked to learn how to use or even check their email. And there is a veritable army of grown adults (many in government, academia and media) who think this is everyone else's fault and that we need to be more accommodating to these entitled college students.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:12 am 
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I think I’m with the meatless guy. In almost all cases I want something done, I turn to skype, not email.

And while we are at it... who leaves voice mails anymore?


In my industry, everyone. Same with e-mail. I get at least 5 voice mails per day. I get at least 20 e-mails. This includes weekends.

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Anyone who says email is going obsolete within 10 years is simply ignorant of how it’s used in a variety of industries that aren’t going away.
Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:25 am 
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Anyone who says email is going obsolete within 10 years is simply ignorant of how it’s used in a variety of industries that aren’t going away.
Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.

What history indicates email is going away?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:32 am 
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Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.
Anyone who makes a statement like this has clearly never worked with the City of Chicago or the County of Cook on any sort of purchasing or supply chain issues. They still fax a lot of documents and require certain documents to be faxed in. Email for certain departments there would be the next step up, and they aren't going to go all email and then upgrade again within ten years.

FF is 100% correct. Email may be used less, but its completely not going away anytime soon.

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Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.
Anyone who makes a statement like this has clearly never worked with the City of Chicago or the County of Cook on any sort of purchasing or supply chain issues. They still fax a lot of documents and require certain documents to be faxed in. Email for certain departments there would be the next step up, and they aren't going to go all email and then upgrade again within ten years.

FF is 100% correct. Email may be used less, but its completely not going away anytime soon.

I agree that it will never completely go away. I'm sure some people still use dial-up. I still have a land line. My point is that it will be replaced as a primary method of communication and will seem antiquated in the not too distant future.

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I do not know of any teenager who uses Slack. Nor any school that does. We had to fax a NLI to a school this week. They wouldn't take an Emailed PDF.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Anyone who says email is going obsolete within 10 years is simply ignorant of how it’s used in a variety of industries that aren’t going away.
Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.

Nope. You're insane if you think it's going to be obsolete within 10 years.

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Saying that "email will be replaced as a primary means of communication" is not even close to the same thing as saying "email will be obsolete in ten years"

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.
Anyone who makes a statement like this has clearly never worked with the City of Chicago or the County of Cook on any sort of purchasing or supply chain issues. They still fax a lot of documents and require certain documents to be faxed in. Email for certain departments there would be the next step up, and they aren't going to go all email and then upgrade again within ten years.

FF is 100% correct. Email may be used less, but its completely not going away anytime soon.

I agree that it will never completely go away. I'm sure some people still use dial-up. I still have a land line. My point is that it will be replaced as a primary method of communication and will seem antiquated in the not too distant future.

Define not too distant future. Because to me, you're looking at this from a narrow perspective. Slack already has replaced email as a primary method of communication in house with fellow employees in many businesses, but it's not close to replacing email for outside communication primarily.

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Define not too distant future. Because to me, you're looking at this from a narrow perspective.


I will hep you. I am 52 and hope to retire at 62. I have no doubt that email will be the primary official communication until after I retire.

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Define not too distant future. Because to me, you're looking at this from a narrow perspective.


I will hep you. I am 52 and hope to retire at 62. I have no doubt that email will be the primary official communication until after I retire.

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How is Slack different from the old AOL instant messenger?

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I've never even heard of Slack and the fact that I get 300 emails/day makes me feel like it is not going away in the near future.

We use Skype for Business but most people here don't even use it. I find it somewhat useful.

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I've never even heard of Slack and the fact that I get 300 emails/day makes me feel like it is not going away in the near future.

We use Skype for Business but most people here don't even use it. I find it somewhat useful.

The fact that you’re getting 300 emails per day is the reason it will be replaced. They are an extraordinary time waster.

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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?

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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?


Snap Chat, obviously.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?

Terry's Peeps Dad circa 1985 wrote:
Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail?

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?

Terry's Peeps Dad circa 1985 wrote:
Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail?


so are acceptance/denial letters still send through standard mail ? or does that come in an email ?


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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?

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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail?


Great non answer.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail/email?

Terry's Peeps Dad circa 1985 wrote:
Has anyone answered how should colleges communicate to prospective students if not through mail?


so are acceptance/denial letters still send through standard mail ? or does that come in an email ?


I think a lot have moved to email.

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I've never even heard of Slack and the fact that I get 300 emails/day makes me feel like it is not going away in the near future.

We use Skype for Business but most people here don't even use it. I find it somewhat useful.

The fact that you’re getting 300 emails per day is the reason it will be replaced. They are an extraordinary time waster.


If one were to agree with you how would all of that internal information get communicated? Or is your point people send more information as is necessary due to email?

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I think some people are taken what is needed to work internally being the same as dealing with the outside. I could see instant messaging being more efficient inside your job than email. However, that is not the same as dealing with people outside your office.

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I've never even heard of Slack and the fact that I get 300 emails/day makes me feel like it is not going away in the near future.

We use Skype for Business but most people here don't even use it. I find it somewhat useful.

The fact that you’re getting 300 emails per day is the reason it will be replaced. They are an extraordinary time waster.


If one were to agree with you how would all of that internal information get communicated? Or is your point people send more information as is necessary due to email?

It's the latter. Reply to all, cc, etc make it too easy to drag out a "conversation". Perhaps the worst part is that you feel forced to respond to anything you are asked since it's in writing and the sender knows you've read it.

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I think some people are taken what is needed to work internally being the same as dealing with the outside. I could see instant messaging being more efficient inside your job than email. However, that is not the same as dealing with people outside your office.
While this is true I find IM to be even more annoying since it interrupts you (often times repeatedly) and pretty much demands an instant response. At least an email can be ignored for a while.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Anyone who makes a statement like that is ignorant of history.
Anyone who makes a statement like this has clearly never worked with the City of Chicago or the County of Cook on any sort of purchasing or supply chain issues. They still fax a lot of documents and require certain documents to be faxed in. Email for certain departments there would be the next step up, and they aren't going to go all email and then upgrade again within ten years.

FF is 100% correct. Email may be used less, but its completely not going away anytime soon.

I agree that it will never completely go away. I'm sure some people still use dial-up. I still have a land line. My point is that it will be replaced as a primary method of communication and will seem antiquated in the not too distant future.
Every person still has a phone number though. That's like saying computers went away because people primarily use laptops now.

Anything that "replaces" email will basically still be what email is. You will have a place where people can send you messages in a readable format that you don't have to immediately reply to with the ability to do things like include files or links.

However, if you do have a solid idea for what will make email obsolete in the next 10 years, can you send me a PM about it so I can become a billionaire?

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I think some people are taken what is needed to work internally being the same as dealing with the outside. I could see instant messaging being more efficient inside your job than email. However, that is not the same as dealing with people outside your office.

Exactly. I've been saying this all thread.

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I've never even heard of Slack and the fact that I get 300 emails/day makes me feel like it is not going away in the near future.

We use Skype for Business but most people here don't even use it. I find it somewhat useful.

The fact that you’re getting 300 emails per day is the reason it will be replaced. They are an extraordinary time waster.


No argument here. I really only need to get about 75 of those but I have to read all of them just in case since I don't know which 75 I need - many in a foreign language which is an additional time-waster.

I just don't see what could replace it.

The real issue is that we are always on the clock. The emails come 24/7 because I carry my email machine in my pocket every waking hour.

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