Last year he had better numbers (top 10 in everything before his injury)and finished the season like 3rd in QBR. MANY of you all said that we should ignore those numbers and instead credit Nagy because it didn't fit your narrative. Now that his numbers suck we should focus on them. This reminds me of Trumpets claiming that the unemployment numbers were cooked until Trump became president.

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Watson has always held the ball too long.

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I don't know what attracts NAS to shitty QBs. Here he is on Glennon:

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=107828&p=2770157&hilit=cutler#p2770462


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I guess you can give NAS credit for emotionally backing his team. But as far as analysis of the players go...yeesh.

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He sucks because his numbers say he sucks. Look at what conns posted.

I didn't say that, you did. I said you made excuses for Cutler, and you are doing the same thing with Mitch.

Because you want to win more than eight games in 2021.

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His better numbers from last year were the result of garbage opposition and MANY takeaways constantly putting the Bears in great position. He has feasted on trash (as he and any QB should).

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He’s capable of getting rid of the ball quickly but he usually doesn’t. Only Kyler Murray took more bad sacks than Watson this year

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No one bought my Glennon bit.

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Yes. His numbers sucked this year. His numbers didn't suck last year and MANY of you all said they should be ignored.

I NEVER made excuses for Cutler outside of trolling for a season. I absolutely hated Cutler and Orton. Winning a Super Bowl would have been the only thing to change that. I was still bitter about Grossman.

Picking up the 5th year option doesn't tie the Bears to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky UNLESS he suffers a major injury that prevents him from playing most or all of 2021. Picking up the 5th year option is simply insurance in the event he has a great year. It would be foolish not to pick it up unless you plan on moving on from him today.

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You said he finished top ten last year in lots of categories. He didn't. 17th in passer rating and 14th in TDs.



Sounds good to me.

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You're proving my point. Give (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky credit for nothing good and blame him for everything bad.

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While you do the opposite. Point the finger and everyone and everything except the elephant in the room.

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I said that he was top 10 in MANY categories BEFORE his shoulder injury last year. There is a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky vs Rodgers thread somewhere in this section that illustrates (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky having better numbers in every category except interceptions at one point before his injury.

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No, I've pointed out his shortcomings and even said that despite some flashes I don't expect him to become a great quarterback but simply a player that you can win with and occasionally win because of. You should probably read the original post in this thread.

Even if you removed (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and inserted whatever reject that you love the Bears offense would still suck. The quarterback isn't holding this team or offense back. The irrational hate MANY of you all have for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky prevents you from seeing this.

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The quarterback didn't help move them forward this year either.

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We're talking about scoring 11 points against GB, 18 against SD, and 18 against the Rams. You do that and we're 11-5. That's not that difficult, even if the TEs and o-line suck. He did hold the offense back.

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So, if the Bears offense would still suck regardless of who the QB is...then you might as well draft one next year and bring in a FA.

The current QB isn't helping this offense either. Maybe a solid O-Line and a TE makes all the difference, but those overthrows, not going through reads, and flat our missing wide open WR's, isn't an O-line or TE problem. It's a Mitch problem.

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Mitch did enough to warrant one more look next year. Bring in Mariota to “compete” for the job, and if shit goes south next year you’ll have your 2021 1st to take the next shot at QB

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I'd say the same thing if I were GB.

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Mariotta blows, no thanks.

We need to draft Hurts in the 2nd and pick up an undrafted free agent QB.

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yeah, right...every NFL team outside of Lake Forest wants Mitch to be the Bears QB.

I like Hurts, but he's dropping...

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This isn't basketball where 1 player can make the difference between winning and losing. That being said (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wasn't good in 2 of those games. He'll blame injury for his performance against the Rams. The Chargers game was lost for similar reasons as the Eagles playoff game. The defense wet the bed late and gave back a lead. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky led the offense down the field late (like he always does) and put them in position to win. The kicker missed an easy 40 yard kick.

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They aren’t going to draft a QB in the 2nd round and sooner or later you will realize all your realistic options blow next year too.

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If the Bears changed nothing and simply just brought in another guy then maybe MANY of you would recognize that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wasn't in the top 4 or 5 when it comes to this team's problems.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was more good than bad over the past 7 games and possibly more great than bad over the past 5 games or so. Simply watching the games would confirm this.

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So, the "consensus" on this board is that to get rid of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky would solve all or most of the offenses problems next season, right? Okay, he's traded or benched. Who do the Bears sign as a free agent or draft as a quarterback? If you draft for a QB in what round and who? And with your remaining draft picks and free agent money, what else do you do to "FIX" this horrific offense?

Remember, though, the present Bear's team does not have ONE starting player that is equal or better than the KC Chiefs starting offensive 11. So, in other words, the Bears have SHIT for starting offensive players all around.

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The KC game stands out. He was atrocious in that game. Other than that he’s played ok lately.

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Based on how rookie contracts are there is no reason to not being him back even if it is a 1 percent chance he becomes great next year.

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So let me get this straight.

Chargers average 21 ppg. Bears hold them to 17
Chargers average 276 pass yards per game. Bears hold them to 201 and intercept the ball once.
Chargers average 90 rushing yards per game and the Bears hold them to 36.

And now Nas says the defense is actually at fault for losing and not (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Why don't you try telling this to a Bears player on defense and see how they'd respond.

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Hey Nas, where did you play QB?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/story/_/id/28266417/meet-2020-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-everything-know-joe-burrow-tua-tagovailoa-more

you draft whomever is available of these guys...or you wait until 2021.

What are the 4-5 things that are ahead of Mitch (ON THE FIELD) that are the issues?

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Then what? Now you have two untested rookie on your team and only one 2nd round pick and some probable non starter type picks left. Now what do you do? Hurts is your starting quarterback and you still need three offensive line starting players, no tight end. No decent all around running back. One quality receiver on your team. What now?

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MANY laughably believe that Winston or every other reject would be better. Winston had Mike Evans and still threw more picks this season than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has for his entire career. FF said 7 of them were touchdowns to the other team. They still think he's better though.

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