That’s just not true. His best day was what he did against Dallas and he was phenomenal. He has a lot of flaws. But he’s capable of making the highest level throws, he’s got good mobility, and he plays best when the stakes are the highest. That’s enough positive attributes that can’t be coached up to mold a good QB out of. You will be unable to list that number of positive attributes about Jameis.

Little too heavy on the Nas talking points, all of which are canards. I'll admit to being had here on the obvious joint trolling.

Robinson is 10x the player Watkins is. I’m having trouble figuring out if you’re trolling at this point.

I wasn’t trolling. You said I have nothing positive to say about Mich. I gave you positive attributes. You respond by saying it’s trolling. At this point you’re telling me you’re not interested in making valid points.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Based on what? Watkins was a phenomenal player in Buffalo and he's putting up numbers that project to be better than Robinson's if he had a similar usage rate.

The argument that he's better than Diggs or Golladay is absolutely laughable.

In what way was he phenomenal at Buffalo? Have you actually seen Watkins plat... like, ever? He’s nothing.

Robinson had 1400 yards with Bortles, he's just the victim of bad QBs.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Ok as an very disinterested observer let me try to boil this down.
Nagy certainly held mitch back. We should all agree on that. This offense was called poorly.
The tools around mitch were basically one elite WR and a bunch of garbage.
Mitch did not make anyone better.
Mitch still can't read defenses.

Essentially mitch was not the worst problem the offense had. It was clearly the playcalling.
That being said, mitch has so many flaws in his ability to read defenses and find 2nd and 3rd reads the playcalling had to be so simple, so moron proof that there could not be any creativity.

Nagy didnt adapt to a terrible QB. Nagy could have, had he been the offensive genius he was supposed to be, have called an offense conducive to mitchs strengths.

This is twofold. Mitch is a poor starting QB, and his coach can't fix that. He can't playcall to his limited strengths.

He is also slow.

Yes I have. We all saw the highlights too. Robinson runs better routes and can makes maybe more physically demanding catches but that doesn't change the production. Watkins is a guy who has averaged more than 15 yards a catch for most of his career. I like WR who are capable of making a 50+ yard play. That has NEVER been Robinson's game. Too slow.

Little too heavy on the Nas talking points, all of which are canards. I'll admit to being had here on the obvious joint trolling.

Sounds like you want Robby Anderson more than Allen Robinson and Michael Thomas. And here I was thinking Al Davis was dead.

There are exceptions to every rule. I hope you aren't suggesting that Robinson is as good as Thomas.

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m saying outright Robinson is a million times better than Watkins and I don’t think anyone who knows football would disagree.

So you don't have anything to quantify how he's better?

Have you at least dropped the Diggs and Golladay comparison?

When the year started, I saw a guy who was not only struggling to read defenses, but he was afraid to roll out of the pocket or run if it wasn't the last drive of a game. He was clearly thinking too much. A clear sign of too many people in his ear and a guy who may not be very bright.

There were clues from Cohen and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky that they weren't happy with Nagy's play calling and his offense. As time went on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky took more ownership of the offense and his career and the Bears and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky looked better.

Despite being handcuffed by his coach and having absolutely the worst offensive talent around him of any young quarterback, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky played well in the 2nd half. He was good more times than not and his flashes of greatness were somewhat frequent. He showed he can even read defenses now.

The Bears have to get better talent around him or anyone else they bring in. Preferably at least 1 elite talent. Mahomes has an elite offensive line and elite skill players. All of them are far better than the Bears best offensive player. Someone is almost always open. That makes life as a quarterback easier. I think Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL, but if he switched places with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky MANY would view both players differently. Watson has arguably the 2nd best WR in football and a #2 who is comparable to Allen Robinson.

I don't think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will ever be great despite the flashes. I think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will be a good to really good quarterback for a long time that flashes greatness from time to time. He's not only a guy I think you can win with, but he's a guy I think you can lean on with the game on the line. That late game ability isn't something that you can coach.

Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is my quarterback.

Based on what? Watkins was a phenomenal player in Buffalo and he's putting up numbers that project to be better than Robinson's if he had a similar usage rate.

The argument that he's better than Diggs or Golladay is absolutely laughable.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

He is also slow.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Didn't the market already speak on the question of Watkins v Robinson. I think they were both FA at the same time (and probably drafted in the same year but its NYE and I ain't doing the extra keystrokes today)

[ fights for balls, .

If we’re going by what the market says I’m going to need some apologies for Amos vs Haha

When the year started, I saw a guy who was not only struggling to read defenses, but he was afraid to roll out of the pocket or run if it wasn't the last drive of a game. He was clearly thinking too much. A clear sign of too many people in his ear and a guy who may not be very bright.

There were clues from Cohen and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky that they weren't happy with Nagy's play calling and his offense. As time went on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky took more ownership of the offense and his career and the Bears and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky looked better.

Despite being handcuffed by his coach and having absolutely the worst offensive talent around him of any young quarterback, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky played well in the 2nd half. He was good more times than not and his flashes of greatness were somewhat frequent. He showed he can even read defenses now.

The Bears have to get better talent around him or anyone else they bring in. Preferably at least 1 elite talent. Mahomes has an elite offensive line and elite skill players. All of them are far better than the Bears best offensive player. Someone is almost always open. That makes life as a quarterback easier. I think Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL, but if he switched places with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky MANY would view both players differently. Watson has arguably the 2nd best WR in football and a #2 who is comparable to Allen Robinson.

I don't think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will ever be great despite the flashes. I think (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will be a good to really good quarterback for a long time that flashes greatness from time to time. He's not only a guy I think you can win with, but he's a guy I think you can lean on with the game on the line. That late game ability isn't something that you can coach.

Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is my quarterback.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

how come no one is talking about the shitty quality of the tablets the bears give to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to study defensive formations and personnel packages. Even though I believe he reads defenses better than anyone I wouldn't be surprised if he missed something due to shitty screens on his tablets.

They weren't able to win with him this season. They couldn't lean with him with the game on the line.

They do need to improve around him. The offensive tackles need to be improved and they need a TE.

It's very difficult to replace him this off-season unless they just shock us, but the most I would expect is bringing in a veteran QB who can potentially give some light competition (but probably not be better) and fill in on the OL/TE. I don't expect an overhaul of the WR group because they have a #1 type in Robinson and Miller did enough in the 2nd half to give them hope on him. From there, Wims (who did not impress) and Ridley are also young and will get chances to find roles.

They can't replace everyone, but I would expect some change. Mitch will be our QB in 2020, but there's no reason to expect much better than what we've seen. He's not accurate down the field and the offense doesn't score touchdowns.