You are holding on to decent games against a team who lost 9 in a row to end the year, and the hapless Cowboys where Mitch's great game was to little too late.

What about the times Mitch failed to lead to offense to more than 20 points against teams like the Packers, Broncos, Chargers, Eagles, Rams, Packers, and Giants? Of those, the only team with a winning record was the Packers. Also, the offense only put up 19 points against the Vikings backups in the final game of the season, and Mitch nearly cost them that win by putting the ball on the carpet late in the 4th quarter. And I know (at least, I hope) you are smart enough to realize that the two late TD drives against the Saints were meaningless. So that makes 9 games where the offense failed to put up more than 20 points.

I watch the games. Do you? I see the results. They are not good enough. You speak as though they are good enough. I want to Bears to make the playoffs and win a Super Bowl. That is not going to happen if the Bears have to rely on Mitch to score points and make plays. It didn't last year in the playoffs. It didn't this year outside of the Cowboys game. Why should I expect any different next year?

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I'm not holding on to anything. Are you always this guy? I simply said what every expert has said and what the data backs up. He does well against teams who play exclusively man like the Lions or don't disguise their zone coverages like the Cowboys.

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Show your work.

And Sir is not an expert.

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Look at the stats of those games. He had 1100 yards 13 total touchdowns and 3 interceptions in those games. He's owned the Lions since Patricia brought his man scheme there and the Cowboys game was his best game of his career against a good defense. It happened primarily because the Cowboys didn't disguise their zone coverages. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can recognize a basic zone or a man coverage. He sucks when you disguise your zone coverages. It's why he's better at the end of games in hurry up because coverages aren't disguised. He can pick that apart if given time. If he understands what you're doing he makes throws with "conviction" and his accuracy is great.

The Rams were the first team last year to recognize disguising their zone coverages was something that he would struggle with. The Packers did it to start the season. He still had an issue with it most of the season. His accuracy isn't great and he looks unsure far too often when he doesn't recognize the coverage.

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I agree. I think it is a good move as far as it goes. The downer in all of this, though, is that it appears that Nagy is going to stay, therefore his boss, Pace is going to stay also. The Bears are screwed.

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So you want to hang on two games against a 3-11-1 team, and 1 good game late in the season when their playoff chances were like 5%.

That's sad, Nas. I thought you would want better for your football team.

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I really hope you are trolling me.

I'm not hanging on to anything. I simply pointed out games against teams who play exclusively man and a team that doesn't disguise their zone coverages. This is what the experts say and based on the results I can see they are probably right.

When (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky knows what you are doing or you can't disguise what you are doing and he has time, he's a really good quarterback. When he doesn't have time or can't recognize what you are doing, he's generally bad.

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Based on what?

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By all accounts he works his ass off. It's probably one of the reasons the locker room didn't turn on him. That and he appears to be a decent guy. He's clearly not very bright though.

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OK. Lets say Mitch gets cut tomorrow. He's now gone for good. Who do they bring in to play quarterback and what else do they do given that they have two 2nd round picks and some limited free agent money. Please be specific and not some general crap like get offensive line help.

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I'd like to think that some of the issues they had were reading game speed defense, which, due to Nagy's insistence that the starters sit for all of the preseason games, it puts them 4 weeks behind, and they didn't catch up to that. I think with the proper type of practice (exhibition games not against the Bears D) that Mitch could learn to read defenses and get better.

Part of me wonders if he was hurt early in the year, and the time off for the shoulder back in October, plus the bye week, helped heal whatever the mystery ailment was.

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I'll agree that when Mitch knows exactly what the defense is doing and he has time to throw, he can be a good QB. So can 31 other guys in the NFL. That is just not the way defense works though, Nas. You know this. Blitzes change, personnel changes, packages change. Mitch has to be able to read and diagnose things quickly, and it appears he can't.

Of course then when he does or Nagy dials up the right play to get a guy open downfield, Mitch can't throw a good pass.

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There is no reason to to have him sitting during the offseason unless he has surgery on his shoulder.

Something happened late in the year where he had a little edge and stopped sounding exactly like his coach. I would like to see that guy from the beginning of the offseason program. If guys are raving about the way he gets them in the huddle and not how he's performing then I'll know that he hasn't gotten better.

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In general, I don't disagree. I think he looks like a top 10 guy when he does. How do you get him there consistently? I don't know. Maybe it will never happen.

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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him how to drink.

I just don't think Mitch has it in him. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it.

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That is what I think also. I think that he was hurt and Nagy didn't want teams to game plan with that in mind. Nothing else really makes sense to me regarding how Nagy game planned in the beginning of the season.

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OL coach sounds like an amazing teacher.

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It showed, especially when he wouldn't tuck the ball and run like he did last season.

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That's right. It had to be some kind of leg or lower back injury that got covered up.

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Knee or ankle came to mind, personally

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Why do the Bears need an offensive coordinator when Matt Nagy is the offensive coordinator? His head is buried in his stupid play sheet all game. Just seems like a position to deflect blame.

If his troubles were caused by an injury, don't you think the Bears would let that be known after the season ended? They knew was getting bashed unmercifully by the fans and media...why not give him some cover?

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Because injury wouldn't explain some of his poor play earlier in the season beyond him simply not running.

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I heard Biggs raise a good point this morning about Castillo.

He has been hired and fired by two former Reid assistants already.

What do they know that Nagy feels they are wrong about?

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No way Castillo is at Michigan last year if John Harbaugh felt that poorly about him.

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let me know when you find a long time NFL assistant coach who's never been fired

He was fired as defensive coordinator in Philly...I remember Reid being mocked for putting an oline coach at DC.

Any assistant isn't going to make Leno play any better at this point. Leno must really be bad even Hub thinks he sucks.

If I could have made my point clear enough for you to understand, then I would have done it.

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The point Biggs makes is moot because he wasn't fired based on his skills as an oline coach in Philly.