You lose all credibility when you say shit like that. Jorr provides more original content than anyone here. He’s had the life experience of multiple lifetimes.

And regarding his affinity, he is a huge baseball fan.

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Evidently, Jorr provides Denis handjobs too.

The entire saga with Bryant has been exhausting. The Cubs took advantage of the collectively bargained rules to get an extra year. Sucks for Bryant, but it was the rules. They did it because they knew what a pain in the ass his agent would be about an extension, which has proven to be true. And it isn't like he's making peanuts, he's been awarded record amounts in arbitration. The Cubs have never fought him on arb.... Yet every year the storyline is his grievance and poor Bryant this and poor Bryant that. And it's driven by Boras and his daddy.

Bababooey has successfully re-branded Caller Bob as Beta Bob. Maybe he can help Nas out with making Biden Hoax a thing.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Bryant will return to his mvp caliber play soon. Who's going to be a consultant on trade offers. Jason McCloud who screwed up the minor leagues? Theo despite what score boot lickers say back is up against the wall. He'll get fleeced once again.

Moving to the gay playbook when you schooled on your original point? How creative.

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Thanks. Any thoughts on the Kris Bryant grievance/saga, denis?

CBA is clear, and the Cubs followed the rules. The ruling was a no doubter. The Sox are doing it the right way by signing these young players to long term deals and taking the issue off the table.

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I dont know if it is the right way or not. There is quite a bit of risk in that approach. Now it appears to be the wise move for robert and eloy....but you could tie up a lot of money into a bust rather easily

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Bryant was never going to sign an early deal. The goal(daddy/boras) was pure FA for him.

The only risk for the Sox is injury, which is a legit concern with both. But they’re not pitchers, so I think the Sox are ok. Bryant would have been a no brainer, but as Bob says, no way Boras does that.

Now Baez, no way I would have done that with him at a young age. If Robert isn’t great I will be the most shocked person on this board. What a fucking beast.

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This is right.

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It's a different way, and right now it appears to be better than what the Cubs did. Time will tell which was "the right way."

A couple are likely to be busts, or at least greatly underachieve. Its lost money at that point, but its not the albatross contracts that Heyward and Darvish are. A couple Sox kids should be stars. If the rest can be solid every day starters, with maybe a couple All Star appearances here and there, the Sox should have a long contention window.

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Yeah, I've seen the social justice knuckleheads saying that such signings are "exploitative". It's a big risk for a team. Robert could blow out a knee tomorrow, career over, and he has $50 million. I think people that are complaining don't understand the process- the minimum salary, the control the team has through the arb years, etc.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

It depends on the money offered.

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wrong

So the Cubs offer him a billion dollar contract extension and he says no?

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Were the Cubs exploiting Kris Bryant by offering him $200 million during the 2018 season? He certainly wasn't worth $25 million in 2018 or 2019.

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stop trolling. You know what I meant.

The point is there was a number that Bryant would have taken. The White Sox found those numbers. The Cubs couldn't.

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Numbers Bryant's camp would have laughed at.

Bryant was an all star the moment he showed up.

If your point is the Cubs wanted to underpay him until he left then yes they weren't going to get him to sign an extension.

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If the Cubs had done it so Bryant could have come up right away and given him security, there was a path. As usual BR is right in that the Sox have found a way with their sure fire prospects.

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The number right away would have been to be one of the top 5 paid players in the game. Boras wasn't offering any early signing discount.

Well, I don't think that's the way to look at it. If he had been a free agent in 2018 or 2019 he certainly would have gotten $25 million. But that's an unknown before the guy ever plays a big league game.

Take a guy like Ozuna who is a free agent now though. He's not going to get $20 million a year right now. He'll be 29 in the 2020 season. But if you could lock Robert's numbers for the next six seasons in at Ozuna's averages for the past four years, would you? I think you'd have to. And I think if he did that, depending on how much you won with him and how his health looked, how he was in your clubhouse, you'd probably exercise his options when you got there.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Always do the right thing regardless of what the rules allow you to get away with.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

In this case Bob is right. Bryant wants to get to free agency as soon as possible and get the most possible money and years at that time. No matter what. If that weren’t true he would not have Boras call the shots. Regardless, he is Boras’ boss and if he wanted to make it easier on the Cubs in any way he could do that. He isn’t.

It’s a lovely notion in sports that you will draft a bunch of awesome players and they will all be really cool and adjust their desires to keep the band together forever. It’s just not practical. Some player or agent or both will turn it over.

Or in the Cub’s case they fuck up and sign Heyward and six bad pitchers and can’t afford to keep all the heroes anyway.

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Agreed.

It's funny how the Cubs fans had a field day last year with the Sox not willing to offer up another $30 or $50 million for Manny Machado. Well, maybe if the Cubs had offered Bryant a $250 million extension, instead of the $200 they reportedly offered, Bryant signs and this entire grievence/soyboy thing is never an issue.

Bob was not correct. He rarely is, as he even sits down to pee. The Cubs could have offered a number Bryant would have taken. They didn't. And now here the Cubs sit on the eve of what appears to be about an 84 win season, debating if they should trade the player who isn't the superstar they thought he would be.

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I wish someone would come and try to tell those kids and their families that they were foolish by accepting a $50MM guaranteed contract at 22-23. And then they be forced to take the ridicule in public.

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Frank, you know what the difference is.