312player wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
312player wrote:
I'm on board with trading down, no more trading up under Pace. There is plenty of talent in the 2nd, find it..you've got two darts for that dart board.
I dont know what you intend to accomplish by trading down unless you're getting better picks in 2021. The odds of finding a good offensive tackle, tight end or rusher where they sit in the second is low. I dont mind grabbing a guy like Dobbins or Etienne plus a defensive back or 5T in that range, but I certainly dont want to trade quality for quantity when I look out at the Bears roster. They need guys who can step in and play at a high level, and outside of the top fifty your odds of finding those guys starts to go down drastically.
I want Pace to stay put, no more swapping picks.. he's getting butt fucked in every trade. Our best lineman Whitehair was bottom of second round.. the best Center in the NFL was a 5th rounder( Kelce) .. Andrew Whitworth , maybe the best tackle in the league was 55th overall.
David Bakhtiari was like 120th overall. Mitch Schwartz was a mid second rounder.
Terron Armstrad, 75th overall. Probably the best tackle in the league.
As far as tight ends go, the three best in the league.
Kelce-3rd round
Kittle-5th
Ertz- 2nd
I'm tired of this lazy shit posting about being fucked if you don't have a top 10 pick. There's super stars every year from the 2nd to the 5th..find em
So there have been two thousand players drafted since David Bakhtiari's draft and you have listed a relative handful that have ascended from outside the top fifty to be elite players at premium positions. It is far more likely that a player drafted higher is a standout performer than one drafted later, and that difference becomes more pronounced with the premium positions (oddly enough quarterback seems to be something of an exception to this rule, but there is almost no rhyme or reason to the quarterback position in the draft in general).
The Bears three biggest needs are three premium positions. Offensive tackle, tight end and edge rusher (and you never have enough edge rushers, even the 49ers have a need at edge rusher for next season). They are not filling all three of those needs with two second round picks and marginal cap space. Not with elite players.
So what they can do is stand pat and grab non-premium position players who fall to them in the second and hope their contributions make-up for the fact that middling-at-best solutions are found at other spots. That's a viable strategy. Or they can move up, get a crack at one of the top talents at offensive tackle or edge rusher, and hopefully pair that with a trade or free agent to fill two-thirds of their needs.
The path to utter ruin is hoping against hope that they will hit on a literal 100:1 shot lottery ticket. That's how you wind up with the likes of Adam Shaheen, by the way. Trying to snag a premium position player in the second.