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CITY HALL — More than 300 cities and 55 countries around the world have banned single-use plastics in an effort to reduce the millions of pounds of plastic trash clogging our lakes and oceans.

Chicago could be next.

On Wednesday, Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd) and Ald. Susan Sadlowski Garza (10th) will introduce an ordinance that looks to significantly cut down how many plastic forks, plates and spoons are doled out by restaurants and other businesses in the city.

The ordinance calls for a total elimination of polystyrene, or styrofoam, foodware. The notorious packaging is not biodegradable.

The ordinance is supported by Ald. George Cardenas (12th), Ald. Matt Martin (47th), Ald. Brian Hopkins (2nd), Maria Hadden (49th) and Michelle Smith (43rd).

This ordinance would be the Midwest’s strongest, said Jen Walling, executive director of the Illinois Environmental Council.

“It’s time for Chicago to step up and lead the Great Lakes region,” Walling said.

Aldermen worked with the Field Museum, Shedd Aquarium, Illinois PIRG, the Illinois Environmental Council, the Recycling Coalition and the Alliance for the Great Lakes to draft the ordinance.

“Only 9 percent of all plastic produced is recycled in Chicago,” supporters of the ordinance said in a statement. “The rest ends up in landfills, along our streets, in gutters and eventually in our water.”

Groups that advocate for people with disabilities also helped with the ordinance. Access Living looked at and tested straw and foodware alternatives and weighed in on the proposed ordinance.

Starting in 2021, restaurants where patrons eat in would be required to use reusable foodware like bowls and plates.

There would be exceptions — like restaurants being able to use plastic straws, paper napkins and foil wrappers — but those items would largely need to be compostable or recyclable.

To help, the city would maintain a list of businesses that sell compostable and recyclable foodware. Full and partial waivers for up to one year would be available to restaurants if the city determined there were no “suitable and affordable” foodware products available.

Restaurants that don’t have the ability to wash dishes and can’t contract out that work would also be able to get a partial or full waiver.

Customers would be able to bring in their own reusable cups, though restaurants would be able to opt not to use those cups if they were damaged, inappropriate in size or dirty, among other things. Instead, restaurants would give the customers a reusable cup that could be used at the eatery or a disposable cup if the customer wants to take the drink elsewhere.

The ordinance also seeks to limit, though not outright ban, other types of plastic packaging: Restaurants could give disposable foodware accessories — like forks — to customers if their patrons asked for them, but those items wouldn’t be able to be packaged in plastic.

And eateries would be “encouraged” to use dispensers for condiments rather than small, plastic packages.

The city would also provide restaurants with printable signs indicating where items could be tossed to be recycled, composted or thrown out.

“When plastics enter our water, they do not disappear,” the Illinois Environmental Council said in a statement. “They break down into microplastics, which cannot be filtered by water treatment plants, and end up in our food and drinking water.”

Sadlowski Garza, who has nine landfills in her ward, said today’s “throwaway culture” is unsustainable at a Wednesday morning news conference.

“I’m very proud of us … for taking a stance on this,” Sadlowski Garza said. “It’s our to job to make sure our environment is sustainable.”

Waguespack, one of the ordinance’s supporters, said the Great Lakes and Chicago River need to be “cleaned up.” When he kayaks, he sees piles of small trash — much of it single-use plastic.

“It doesn’t just harm our children, it harms our wildlife, too,” Waguespack said.

Michelle Thoma-Culver, president of the Chicago Recycling Coalition, said everyone eats, drinks and breathes microplastics every day.

“The plague of plastics in our environment is real and serious,” she said. “Chicagoans are up for this challenge.”

The city banned plastic bags in 2017, forcing those who wanted one to pay 7 cents at grocery stores and other businesses. According to a study done one month after the ban was implemented, the use of plastic bags by Chicagoans dropped 42 percent in the first month.

The measure will need approval from the full City Council in order to advance.

Love it. Get it passed.


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Yup. Probably the only really good idea by environmentalists.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:14 am 
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Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:17 am 
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Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.

city counsel will act IN DUE TIME????

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Dog shit must be picked up with your bare hands.


Scoop it

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Nas wrote:
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Dog shit must be picked up with your bare hands.


Scoop it

With your mouth

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Dog shit must be picked up with your bare hands.


Scoop it

With your mouth


Just like dog vomit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:26 am 
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The history of store bags is pretty humorous. Way back you have your mom or grandma's vinyl or cloth shopping back you take with you. Then you go to biodegradable paper bags. They are bad for trees but free. Then plastic bags because they are not bad for trees and cheaper for stores but still free. And we come up to now finally realizing plastic bags everywhere are bad so we will go back to paper, cloth or vinyl shopping bags that you pay for.

My next story will be the stupid history of plastic bottled water.

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Kirkwood wrote:
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/01/15/chicago-moves-to-ban-all-styrofoam-single-use-plastics/?mc_cid=16f0113cae&mc_eid=f34fe8ae91

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CITY HALL — More than 300 cities and 55 countries around the world have banned single-use plastics in an effort to reduce the millions of pounds of plastic trash clogging our lakes and oceans...
Sadlowski Garza, who has nine landfills in her ward, said today’s “throwaway culture” is unsustainable at a Wednesday morning news conference.

“I’m very proud of us … for taking a stance on this,” Sadlowski Garza said. “It’s our to job to make sure our environment is sustainable.”

Love it. Get it passed.


None of them take garbage by the way. Just yard waste or construction debris.

Re-usable containers for grocery items is the one of the hottest topics in the food packaging arena as well. Good ideas that can't come to fruition fast enough.

The recycling markets in this country are in the toilet currently. The need for recycled paper has dropped dramatically over the past 16 months.

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I can't speak for factory settings as I haven't worked in one in over 10 years. But as just one of the thousands of Loop office drones, I used to go out to lunch 1 or 2 times a week. All the pointless plastic utensils quickly added up.

It's so easy to pack a cheap set of re-useable utensils and use tupperware (rather than ziplock bags or saran wrap) for your lunch.


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Douchebag wrote:
Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.


Ok Boomer. You probably like paper straws too.


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Douchebag wrote:
Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.


Ok Boomer. You probably like paper straws too.

Nah, the paper straws suck. I'm not completely anti-plastic, but styrofoam is maybe the worst material ever invented. Whoever developed it should be thrown off a building.

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Douchebag wrote:
Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.


Ok Boomer. You probably like paper straws too.

You don't understand how "Ok, boomer" works. :lol:

Paper straws are fine. Straws in general are wasteful.


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Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.


Ok Boomer. You probably like paper straws too.

Nah, the paper straws suck. I'm not completely anti-plastic, but styrofoam is maybe the worst material ever invented. Whoever developed it should be thrown off a building.


Paper straws are the worst. Just let me drink off the glass.

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Yup. Unless I'm at the Shedd or a zoo, paper straws are useless.

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I love paper straws. Reminds me of the olde ice cream parlor in Marshall Fields downtown.

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I can't speak for factory settings as I haven't worked in one in over 10 years. But as just one of the thousands of Loop office drones, I used to go out to lunch 1 or 2 times a week. All the pointless plastic utensils quickly added up.

It's so easy to pack a cheap set of re-useable utensils and use tupperware (rather than ziplock bags or saran wrap) for your lunch.


It really comes down to breaking wasteful old habits. Which ends up being easy in this area.

I always smile at the momentary surprised looks after asking that my groceries be put back into the cart if I haven't brought enough reusable bags into a suburban supermarket.

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Went to a Hawks game recently. No more “souvenir” cup, which we reuse daily at home. Only disposable, single use paper cups. The paper straw literally dissolved in the second period.


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Nas wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Styrofoam should have been dead 25 years ago. Get that shit out of here.


Ok Boomer. You probably like paper straws too.

Nah, the paper straws suck. I'm not completely anti-plastic, but styrofoam is maybe the worst material ever invented. Whoever developed it should be thrown off a building.


Paper straws are the worst. Just let me drink off the glass.

As you should. Drinking off the glass is 1st world problem times 10 billion


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Kirkwood wrote:
I can't speak for factory settings as I haven't worked in one in over 10 years. But as just one of the thousands of Loop office drones, I used to go out to lunch 1 or 2 times a week. All the pointless plastic utensils quickly added up.

It's so easy to pack a cheap set of re-useable utensils and use tupperware (rather than ziplock bags or saran wrap) for your lunch.


It really comes down to breaking wasteful old habits. Which ends up being easy in this area.

I always smile at the momentary surprised looks after asking that my groceries be put back into the cart if I haven't brought enough reusable bags into a suburban supermarket.

We have re-usable bags and use them. what kills me are the baggers at Mariano's and every other grocery store. People are so programmed to walk away with as many plastic bags as possible. In the event I don't have one of our bags with me, the baggers look at me like I'm crazy when I have to coach them to cram it all in one bag. it's really ridiculous.

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To help, the city would maintain a list of businesses that sell compostable and recyclable foodware


and i'm sure those businesses won't be connected to any politicians at all....


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I know they're not environmentally sound, but I miss the old styrofoam clamshell burger boxes at McDonald's. Kept the buns moist vs the cardboard boxes...gotta have moist buns!

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I know they're not environmentally sound, but I miss the old styrofoam clamshell burger boxes at McDonald's. Kept the buns moist vs the cardboard boxes...gotta have moist buns!

Correct. Hamburgers should get special dispensation with the styrofoam. Quarter Pounders haven't been the same since.


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absolutely terrible idea.

I dont wanna eat out of the same dishes as other people. Disgusting. I want plastic plates, and utensils.

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