Said shitty T.V also cost two thousand dollars

I was thinking about that a while ago when I saw a clip of the Bears-Cardinals game that brought me here in the first place. It looks like it could have been yesterday. It was 13 years ago. A 1993 telecast wouldn't have looked like yesterday in 2006. I swear I'm not high.

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Crown their ass!

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How can anyone watch all these horribly inefficient 2 point jumpshots!

Inside the NBA was a tough watch tonight. Shaq saying he hadn’t spoken to Kobe since his last game and there was a lot of remorse and tears from him.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I thought they had made up...

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I think they mostly did but there was still some lingering bad feelings from everything. It’s weird to me that Kobe seemingly talked to Shareef more than Shaq at the end.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Who is Shaq crapping?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMI8-7KSlyE

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Maybe he meant in a personal setting?

Um, that video doesn't discredit anything.

There's some podcast Shaq is on. If you Google it you'll hear him talk about this more. The podcast was actually his first time talking about Kobe and not the TNT show. Basically he said he had not been in touch consistently because his mantra is family first then work. As for friends it's "I'll see you when I see you". That makes sense especially with kids involved in multiple activities. Hardly anytime for anything else other than kids once work/business is done. After Kobe he said he wants to change it up. He said he's gonna try and stay in touch with friends more consistently, starting with Dennis Scott.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Best basketball camp ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KneXybVRCSs

Interesting comments from Jerry West about Kobe possibly joining the Clippers in 04 and how he talked him out of it. It is crazy just how long ago all of this stuff was.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/285 ... believe-it


A devastated West, his eyes bloodshot due to crying, said he will never get over Bryant's death.

"Saddest day of my life," West said. "I lost a brother in Korea is the only thing that compares to this to me ... I had a special relationship with [Bryant]. No one knows the intimate talks I had with him. No one knows. Even people close to him, they don't know the conversations I had with him. They don't know the conversations I had with him when I was working in Memphis. We still communicated."

The man who orchestrated the trade that brought Bryant to the Lakers revealed how he advised him to not join the LA Clippers when the All-Star wanted to leave as a free agent in 2004. West was working for the Memphis Grizzlies at the time and is now a consultant for the Clippers.


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"I remember when he was going to leave the Lakers, and I never really mentioned this to anyone," said West, the Grizzlies' general manager from 2002 to '07. "He was going to come and sign with the Clippers, whom I am now involved with as a consultant. And I told him, Kobe, under no circumstances can you do this.

"And he was mad at everyone at the Lakers, the owner, everyone else. I said, you can't go play with the Clippers. You can't play for that owner [Donald Sterling] -- period. We had two conversations about it. And he supposedly made a commitment to the Clippers, and we talked [one] last time.

"But there are so many things we talked about. He was just seeking information [constantly]. I honestly felt like his father for two years. ... I don't know if I can get over this ever."

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I liked that West specifically said “you can’t go play for that owner” about Sterling

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a decade before the NBA finally took the franchise from Sterling, and everyone who needed to know already knew what a cancer he was as an owner. Sterling finally got run out of the league as Stern was stepping down. Stern vetoed Chris Paul to the Lakers and then Paul ends up on the Clippers.

So he was going to play for David Duke over the Chicago Bulls? FML.

The truth is that the overwhelming majority of people publicly emoting over his death had next to no personal relationship with the guy. Our nation is collectively mentally ill

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Don’t agree with that at all. If you were a big sports fan, especially between the ages of 21-40 or whatever it is, you grew up with Kobe as one of the biggest figures in sports life. That combined with the the age he died, how he died, and his daughter being with him, I think it makes sense. If he got loaded and killed himself in a DUI crash and was the only death or something like that I think you would still see a lot of sadness but the context of his death adds to it quite a bit.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Shaq didn’t care about Kobe as much in life as he did in death.

This is the same weird phenomenon as you see with people like princess diana. It’s like a kind of munchhausen

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I mean Shaq pretty much acknowledged that and his remorse of that seemed genuine. They had made up while Kobe was still alive and Kobe was in regular contact with his son so you can’t really say they were estranged still at the end.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I think Shaq will "change" for a year or so then you go back to the norm. Princess Di was a little different but I get where you are going. You've never felt a connection to a celebrity or some asshole lawyer/politician/something that you didn't know personally? I get you are stoic and self contained but you have a sentimentality to you at times. There has to be a connection somewhere that's not rational.

I’m just using Shaq as an example

I get fans being shocked when it happened as it was just something unexpected from a person they admired. The need to publicly register the deep grieving the public is going through has gotten to a ridiculous level

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You thought the same when Michael Jackson and/or Prince died?

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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I felt bad for a little while when Payton died but little while is an hour or two. People act like it was a death in the family. I know Facebook sucks but I see people I know literally saying they are grieving

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I didn’t notice it with prince. Michaels life was absurd from birth to death. Nothing surprises me about anything with him

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There has to be a connection somewhere though.

It will be some good looking to average looking girl but it will happen. Unless, you're just that guy.

I cry at funerals.

Maybe I’ll sob for Parker posey

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Well, I aced my comment, but...

Was waiting for this. That people are all freaked out might point to the alienation so many people feel. Wanna be a part of something.

Social media brings out the sentimental in us, too. Plus, the shock of the event imprints us in weird ways, and the fact that kids died just makes you feel helpless.

But there are a lot of negatives about Kobe (thank goodness he's not a punk rocker with an ex) and his wife. Kobe also got sanctified for being a good father; those are some low expectations. Now he's being lionized as a renaissance man and global citizen. It's easy to get swept up in this movement, and it feels good to do so. If people want to treat Kobe and company as royalty, that's cool, but the emotion sometimes looks fake.

OMG. I almost said Parker Posey. I still don't get that but good for you buddy.

I almost never cry at funerals.

Miss the fuck out of my husband's uncle by marriage. I could look at him in the middle of a holiday dinner and nod or with bug eyes and he knew what I was thinking. I miss 2 of my great aunts. And in the next 10 or so years I'm going to miss a whole lot of people.

I had a tough time when George Michael died. He sang my happy songs as a yout, a huge breakup song at a very pivotal moment in my love life, and I still put the playlist on. I feel sad he died alone and sad.

I'm hearing something different. He meant more to the sports world than MANY of us recognized. That is probably the only shocking thing. I'm hearing MANY talk about a guy who was different than the way the media made him out to be. He wasn't really aloof at all. He just didn't do the club thing like MANY athletes. He seemingly would go out of his way to do really nice things for people who shouldn't have mattered to him. He was also willing to mentor any player who asked.

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