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312player

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:19 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Take a guy like Ozuna who is a free agent now though. He's not going to get $20 million a year right now. He'll be 29 in the 2020 season. But if you could lock Robert's numbers for the next six seasons in at Ozuna's averages for the past four years, would you? I think you'd have to. And I think if he did that, depending on how much you won with him and how his health looked, how he was in your clubhouse, you'd probably exercise his options when you got there.

Agreed.

pittmike wrote:

In this case Bob is right. Bryant wants to get to free agency as soon as possible and get the most possible money and years at that time. No matter what. If that weren’t true he would not have Boras call the shots. Regardless, he is Boras’ boss and if he wanted to make it easier on the Cubs in any way he could do that. He isn’t.

It's funny how the Cubs fans had a field day last year with the Sox not willing to offer up another $30 or $50 million for Manny Machado. Well, maybe if the Cubs had offered Bryant a $250 million extension, instead of the $200 they reportedly offered, Bryant signs and this entire grievence/soyboy thing is never an issue.

Bob was not correct. He rarely is, as he even sits down to pee. The Cubs could have offered a number Bryant would have taken. They didn't. And now here the Cubs sit on the eve of what appears to be about an 84 win season, debating if they should trade the player who isn't the superstar they thought he would be.

The reports were that Boras-Bryant were so far away from the 200$ Mill that Epstein said fuck it.. there's no deal to be done.

I don't blame KB and I don't blame the Cubs. It takes balls to turn down 200 Mill.. Acuna will be MFing his agent in 2 years, like Sale did. If you bet on yourself and it works out great. Or you can take 30 cents on the dollar and play it safe.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:23 pm

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Regular Reader wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

RFDC wrote:

denisdman wrote:

CBA is clear, and the Cubs followed the rules. The ruling was a no doubter. The Sox are doing it the right way by signing these young players to long term deals and taking the issue off the table.

I dont know if it is the right way or not. There is quite a bit of risk in that approach. Now it appears to be the wise move for robert and eloy....but you could tie up a lot of money into a bust rather easily

Yeah, I've seen the social justice knuckleheads saying that such signings are "exploitative". It's a big risk for a team. Robert could blow out a knee tomorrow, career over, and he has $50 million. I think people that are complaining don't understand the process- the minimum salary, the control the team has through the arb years, etc.

I wish someone would come and try to tell those kids and their families that they were foolish by accepting a $50MM guaranteed contract at 22-23. And then they be forced to take the ridicule in public.

Bonilla seems happy. Anyway a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:06 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

RFDC wrote:

denisdman wrote:

CBA is clear, and the Cubs followed the rules. The ruling was a no doubter. The Sox are doing it the right way by signing these young players to long term deals and taking the issue off the table.

Bonilla seems happy. Anyway a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

Bonilla was on his 3rd contract iirc. His happiness was already in the bag.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:10 pm

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Bonilla is very happy. Met him. Living the good life on the Gulf Coast. Could you imagine being so delusional to give a shit if a player makes 70 million instead of 90 million?

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:00 pm

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Just signed 1yr 18 million deal .

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Just signed 1yr 18 million deal .

I'm surprised. Seems cheap.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:18 pm

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Peoria Matt wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Frank, you know what the difference is.

Of course I know its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, but the fact remains that neither team ponied up an acceptable amount of dough to sign their guy.

In the Sox case, that appears to have worked out in their favor.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:19 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Just signed 1yr 18 million deal .

I'm surprised. Seems cheap.

https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/1/ ... rbitration

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That’s $100,000 more than MLB Trade Rumors projected for Kris Bryant this season. The Cubs are supposedly in “save as much money as possible” mode, but $100,000 likely won’t break the bank.

They have never really nickled and dimed him in Arb..there has never been a nasty drag out arb fight at least.

That said, I'm sure Kris will be furious about this number once Daddy and Agent tell him he should be.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:46 pm

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Wily Contreras 1yr 4.5 million .

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:32 pm

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With Bryant, Contreres, Baez, Schwarber signing one year contracts Heyward makes more then all four next year. More than Baez and Contreres or Schwarber combined.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:49 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

Just signed 1yr 18 million deal .

I never believed for one second that Bryant or any of the core would be traded.

What a joke, with all his "changes".

Just say you like your players and you wanna give it another go with them.

Instead of bullshit like hitting director and pitchin' director. What kinda bullshit is that?

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312player

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:05 am

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They couldn't trade him til this case was settled, he'll be traded between now and the deadline.

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:30 am

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312player wrote:

They couldn't trade him til this case was settled, he'll be traded between now and the deadline.

no he wont. Theo wants too much for him.

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Bully Hendry would have signed Harper for 2.5 Billion over 30 years

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:15 am

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Bryant lost. Official. Now trade him.

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:23 am

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no player is worth a 300 M contract. the only time one of these mega contracts to a positional player worked out was arod with the yankees... and their a special case since they can spend whatever

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312player

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:09 pm

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He thinks he's a top 5 player, he's not even top 20.

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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Scooter

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:28 pm

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312player wrote:

He thinks he's a top 5 player, he's not even top 20.

Correct. In my mind 27-32 in that area.

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Erotic Lawyer

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 pm

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The Bryant family can’t catch a break this week.

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'77Cubs

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:02 pm

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Erotic Lawyer wrote:

The Bryant family can’t catch a break this week.

Poor Kris.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:11 pm

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Scooter wrote:

312player wrote:

He thinks he's a top 5 player, he's not even top 20.

Correct. In my mind 27-32 in that area.

That may be too generous

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:30 pm

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Nas wrote:

Scooter wrote:

312player wrote:

He thinks he's a top 5 player, he's not even top 20.

Correct. In my mind 27-32 in that area.

That may be too generous

Depends on how much you value not showing when your team needs you. If that is a plus KRIS is a top 5 player.

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Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:32 pm

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Erotic Lawyer wrote:

Nas wrote:

Scooter wrote:

312player wrote:

He thinks he's a top 5 player, he's not even top 20.

Correct. In my mind 27-32 in that area.

That may be too generous

Depends on how much you value not showing when your team needs you. If that is a plus KRIS is a top 5 player.

I value that highly so top 40-50 for me. His stats last year vs. MIL and SL were brutal.

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vitoscotti

Post subject: Re: Soy Boy to lose his grievence

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:23 am

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I like Kris Bryant. I wouldn't trade him. But with all the noise, he's making 18.6 million this year!

Ron Santo on him making the team when he was 20.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CgI8F2A6ag8

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