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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:08 pm 
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New HBO series from the creator of the Wire.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Xu6FuP-IM&feature=emb_title

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New HBO series from the creator of the Wire.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Xu6FuP-IM&feature=emb_title

Book was decent. It was more realistic (more probably realistic, that is) than most alternative histories. Nothing like The Hombre in the High Castle.

I always got a kick out of that slogan, "If he's good enough for Lindy, he's good enough for me."


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what a complicated life, cant wait for the series

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Double life and secret German children
Beginning in 1957, Lindbergh had engaged in lengthy sexual relationships with three women while he remained married to Anne Morrow. He fathered three children with hatmaker Brigitte Hesshaimer (1926–2001), who had lived in the small Bavarian town of Geretsried. He had two children with her sister Mariette, a painter, living in Grimisuat. Lindbergh also had a son and daughter (born in 1959 and 1961) with Valeska, an East Prussian aristocrat who was his private secretary in Europe and lived in Baden-Baden.[201][202][203][204] All seven children were born between 1958 and 1967.[205]

Ten days before he died, Lindbergh wrote to each of his European mistresses, imploring them to maintain the utmost secrecy about his illicit activities with them even after his death.[206] The three women (none of whom ever married) all managed to keep their affairs secret even from their children, who during his lifetime (and for almost a decade after his death) did not know the true identity of their father, whom they had only known by the alias Careu Kent and they had seen him only when he briefly visited them once or twice a year. However, after reading a magazine article about Lindbergh in the mid-1980s, Brigitte's daughter Astrid deduced the truth; she later discovered snapshots and more than 150 love letters from Lindbergh to her mother. After Brigitte and Anne Lindbergh had both died, she made her findings public; in 2003 DNA tests confirmed that Lindbergh had fathered Astrid and her two siblings.[205][207] Reeve Lindbergh, Lindbergh's youngest child with Anne, wrote in her personal journal in 2003, "This story reflects absolutely Byzantine layers of deception on the part of our shared father. These children did not even know who he was! He used a pseudonym with them (To protect them, perhaps? To protect himself, absolutely!)"[208]


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Hopefully, this is everything The Man in the High Castle wasn't


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I've become a big fan of Roth's books in recent years. I think I'm going to wait to read the book before watching the series.


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what a complicated life, cant wait for the series

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Double life and secret German children
Beginning in 1957, Lindbergh had engaged in lengthy sexual relationships with three women while he remained married to Anne Morrow. He fathered three children with hatmaker Brigitte Hesshaimer (1926–2001), who had lived in the small Bavarian town of Geretsried. He had two children with her sister Mariette, a painter, living in Grimisuat. Lindbergh also had a son and daughter (born in 1959 and 1961) with Valeska, an East Prussian aristocrat who was his private secretary in Europe and lived in Baden-Baden.[201][202][203][204] All seven children were born between 1958 and 1967.[205]

Ten days before he died, Lindbergh wrote to each of his European mistresses, imploring them to maintain the utmost secrecy about his illicit activities with them even after his death.[206] The three women (none of whom ever married) all managed to keep their affairs secret even from their children, who during his lifetime (and for almost a decade after his death) did not know the true identity of their father, whom they had only known by the alias Careu Kent and they had seen him only when he briefly visited them once or twice a year. However, after reading a magazine article about Lindbergh in the mid-1980s, Brigitte's daughter Astrid deduced the truth; she later discovered snapshots and more than 150 love letters from Lindbergh to her mother. After Brigitte and Anne Lindbergh had both died, she made her findings public; in 2003 DNA tests confirmed that Lindbergh had fathered Astrid and her two siblings.[205][207] Reeve Lindbergh, Lindbergh's youngest child with Anne, wrote in her personal journal in 2003, "This story reflects absolutely Byzantine layers of deception on the part of our shared father. These children did not even know who he was! He used a pseudonym with them (To protect them, perhaps? To protect himself, absolutely!)"[208]


My children only know me as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

That’s not my real name.

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billypootons wrote:
what a complicated life, cant wait for the series

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Double life and secret German children
Beginning in 1957, Lindbergh had engaged in lengthy sexual relationships with three women while he remained married to Anne Morrow. He fathered three children with hatmaker Brigitte Hesshaimer (1926–2001), who had lived in the small Bavarian town of Geretsried. He had two children with her sister Mariette, a painter, living in Grimisuat. Lindbergh also had a son and daughter (born in 1959 and 1961) with Valeska, an East Prussian aristocrat who was his private secretary in Europe and lived in Baden-Baden.[201][202][203][204] All seven children were born between 1958 and 1967.[205]

Ten days before he died, Lindbergh wrote to each of his European mistresses, imploring them to maintain the utmost secrecy about his illicit activities with them even after his death.[206] The three women (none of whom ever married) all managed to keep their affairs secret even from their children, who during his lifetime (and for almost a decade after his death) did not know the true identity of their father, whom they had only known by the alias Careu Kent and they had seen him only when he briefly visited them once or twice a year. However, after reading a magazine article about Lindbergh in the mid-1980s, Brigitte's daughter Astrid deduced the truth; she later discovered snapshots and more than 150 love letters from Lindbergh to her mother. After Brigitte and Anne Lindbergh had both died, she made her findings public; in 2003 DNA tests confirmed that Lindbergh had fathered Astrid and her two siblings.[205][207] Reeve Lindbergh, Lindbergh's youngest child with Anne, wrote in her personal journal in 2003, "This story reflects absolutely Byzantine layers of deception on the part of our shared father. These children did not even know who he was! He used a pseudonym with them (To protect them, perhaps? To protect himself, absolutely!)"[208]


My children only know me as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

That’s not my real name.


It's Father Kenneth Noisewater

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Warren Newson wrote:
I've become a big fan of Roth's books in recent years. I think I'm going to wait to read the book before watching the series.

I didn't like it as much as other Roth books (Goodbye, Columbus; The Human Stain; American Pastoral; and of course Portnoy's Complaint are my favorites) but if the show makes new fans of him, I'm all for it.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
I've become a big fan of Roth's books in recent years. I think I'm going to wait to read the book before watching the series.

I didn't like it as much as other Roth books (Goodbye, Columbus; The Human Stain; American Pastoral; and of course Portnoy's Complaint are my favorites) but if the show makes new fans of him, I'm all for it.


I read Portnoy's Complaint in 2007 and didn't really care for it, there are only so many pages of prose I want to read that describe somebody's masturbatory habits. However, The Human Stain was terrific, and The Ghost Writer and I Married a Communist were both very good. He packs so much story into every sentence without overburdening the sentence, it's amazing.


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Guess I just like tales of sticking dicks in liver more than most :?

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Warren Newson wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
I've become a big fan of Roth's books in recent years. I think I'm going to wait to read the book before watching the series.

I didn't like it as much as other Roth books (Goodbye, Columbus; The Human Stain; American Pastoral; and of course Portnoy's Complaint are my favorites) but if the show makes new fans of him, I'm all for it.


I read Portnoy's Complaint in 2007 and didn't really care for it, there are only so many pages of prose I want to read that describe somebody's masturbatory habits. However, The Human Stain was terrific, and The Ghost Writer and I Married a Communist were both very good. He packs so much story into every sentence without overburdening the sentence, it's amazing.

Someone once said, "Phillip Roth is America's foremost novelist, but I'd never shake the guy's hand."


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tommy wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
I've become a big fan of Roth's books in recent years. I think I'm going to wait to read the book before watching the series.

I didn't like it as much as other Roth books (Goodbye, Columbus; The Human Stain; American Pastoral; and of course Portnoy's Complaint are my favorites) but if the show makes new fans of him, I'm all for it.


I read Portnoy's Complaint in 2007 and didn't really care for it, there are only so many pages of prose I want to read that describe somebody's masturbatory habits. However, The Human Stain was terrific, and The Ghost Writer and I Married a Communist were both very good. He packs so much story into every sentence without overburdening the sentence, it's amazing.

Someone once said, "Phillip Roth is America's foremost novelist, but I'd never shake the guy's hand."


I've seen some interviews with him where he tries to claim that the main characters of his novels are not really based on him, but I don't see how they couldn't be. He probably tops Norman Mailer for the most sex-obsessed novelist I've ever read.


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Another trailer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RwMwrft7So8

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The trailers just show things progressively getting worse for the Jews. Is there a happy ending to be found for them, or is this family staying alive the only trophy?


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