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Maybe stay away from Old Growth forests?



Old growth forests are less effective at carbon sequestration than younger but still mature forests.

Planting trees is a decent mitigation strategy, but it can be only one small part of a much larger strategy.


We've already decimated most of our Old Growth forests. There's zero reason to cut down the rest for what amounts to nil benefit.

We have million upon million acres of to replant without touching designated Old Growth.

It's also a terrible idea to plant trees in the Great Plains and savannas. It takes less than 5 minutes to discover that this idea is less than adequate. We already plant 75% of what this "plan" suggests. 25% more trees planted is nice, but not an actual solution.

How about a corn/tree hybrid?

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Wouldn’t 25% be more trees then?

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Wouldn’t 25% be more trees then?

Golden Jet is saying planting trees is one (minor) part of a carbon management plan. It can’t be the plan :lol:


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Wouldn’t 25% be more trees then?

Golden Jet is saying planting trees is one (minor) part of a carbon management plan. It can’t be the plan :lol:


If trees eat carbon dioxide shouldn't we be pumping even more into the atmosphere? We don't want the trees to starve. Nobody talks about this.

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GoldenJet wrote:
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Maybe stay away from Old Growth forests?



Old growth forests are less effective at carbon sequestration than younger but still mature forests.

Planting trees is a decent mitigation strategy, but it can be only one small part of a much larger strategy.


We've already decimated most of our Old Growth forests. There's zero reason to cut down the rest for what amounts to nil benefit.

We have million upon million acres of to replant without touching designated Old Growth.

It's also a terrible idea to plant trees in the Great Plains and savannas. It takes less than 5 minutes to discover that this idea is less than adequate. We already plant 75% of what this "plan" suggests. 25% more trees planted is nice, but not an actual solution.


I'm not suggesting that old growth forests should be cleared. Rather, I'm simply pointing out that old growth forests aren't that great at sequestering carbon. As you say, the problem is massive and playing Johnny Appleseed isn't going to accomplish much.

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Wouldn’t 25% be more trees then?

Golden Jet is saying planting trees is one (minor) part of a carbon management plan. It can’t be the plan :lol:


If trees eat carbon dioxide shouldn't we be pumping even more into the atmosphere? We don't want the trees to starve. Nobody talks about this.

Very true.


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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?

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Tall Midget wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?


Uh, no. It's reality. Do you have a suggestion to overcome this fact? Do you disagree that it is true? You're basically saying we have to do something even if it makes no difference at all. That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that there are big impacts that come with some of the proposed "solutions."


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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This anti-cutting-off-our-own-dicks proposal makes no sense when most of the world has no restriction on cutting their dicks off. China and India cut off their own dicks as much as the rest of the world combined.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This anti-cutting-off-our-own-dicks proposal makes no sense when most of the world has no restriction on cutting their dicks off. China and India cut off their own dicks as much as the rest of the world combined.

What do you do with the dick once you cuts it off?

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storkinastorm wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?


Uh, no. It's reality. Do you have a suggestion to overcome this fact? Do you disagree that it is true? You're basically saying we have to do something even if it makes no difference at all. That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that there are big impacts that come with some of the proposed "solutions."


The United States is the most powerful country in the world. If it wanted to do so, it certainly could "make a difference". The feigned helplessness articulated by the right with regards to climate change is transparent rubbish.

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Darkside wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This anti-cutting-off-our-own-dicks proposal makes no sense when most of the world has no restriction on cutting their dicks off. China and India cut off their own dicks as much as the rest of the world combined.

What do you do with the dick once you cuts it off?


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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.

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Darkside wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This anti-cutting-off-our-own-dicks proposal makes no sense when most of the world has no restriction on cutting their dicks off. China and India cut off their own dicks as much as the rest of the world combined.

What do you do with the dick once you cuts it off?


Throw it at Greta in a fit of literally impotent rage.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.


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storkinastorm wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.


Why try anything if we're all just gonna die?

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Tall Midget wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?


Uh, no. It's reality. Do you have a suggestion to overcome this fact? Do you disagree that it is true? You're basically saying we have to do something even if it makes no difference at all. That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that there are big impacts that come with some of the proposed "solutions."


The United States is the most powerful country in the world. If it wanted to do so, it certainly could "make a difference". The feigned helplessness articulated by the right with regards to climate change is transparent rubbish.


How much of a difference, percentage-wise? Just throwing out vague phrases like "make a difference" is why these debates go nowhere. Are you suggesting that if we make changes to portray some nebulous quality like leadership, China and India will follow suit? How about Kenya? Their economy is just starting. Are they expected to forego their industrial revolution because a bunch of Western do-gooders lecture them about their effects on the planet after we have already enjoyed the fruits of a modern, fossil fuel-based economy? We suffer from not just helplessness but also seismic hypocrisy. The inability of you and others to articulate exactly what it is the U.S. or Western countries could do that would have any significant impact on the rest of the world really hurts your argument.


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SpiralStairs wrote:
storkinastorm wrote:
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storkinastorm wrote:
America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.


Why try anything if we're all just gonna die?


Is your half-joking/half-terrible argument schtick a result of your insecurity from a lack of ability to add anything valuable to a discussion?


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SpiralStairs wrote:
storkinastorm wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
storkinastorm wrote:
America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.


Why try anything if we're all just gonna die?

That's what I'm talking about. Letz party naked.

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storkinastorm wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.

It’s hard to lead when you don’t set an example. How do we push China if it’s clear we really don’t care? Your line of thought seems anti ethical to the concept of American exceptionalism.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.

It’s hard to lead when you don’t set an example. How do we push China if it’s clear we really don’t care? Your line of thought seems anti ethical to the concept of American exceptionalism.

You can't "push" China by example. They don't give 2 fucks about following examples. You push them as Trump has pushed them on trade.

US isn't by itself falling short on Paris accord goals. Paris accord country SIGNEES are falling short. At least we aren't hypocrites


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storkinastorm wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.

That’s a bit of cherry picking though. The U.S. is still one of the top emitters. Your stat just reflects the huge drop-off when you get past the top 3.


Yes, agreed, but that doesn't change my point. We could get down to net zero emissions and it will have reduced sizable but inconsequential portion of world emissions. China is double us, and India isn't far behind us. With those three countries alone, we account for less than a quarter of the total. That doesn't even include all other countries.


Why try anything if we're all just gonna die?


Is your half-joking/half-terrible argument schtick a result of your insecurity from a lack of ability to add anything valuable to a discussion?


Your argument appears to be that nothing matters. Either that or you're not arguing anything.

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His argument is nothing matters. Great leadership theory


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His argument is nothing matters. Great leadership theory

It’s better to do nothing than less than what you stated you would. Not being a hypocrite is the best we can hope for under this leadership.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Maybe stay away from Old Growth forests?



Old growth forests are less effective at carbon sequestration than younger but still mature forests.

Planting trees is a decent mitigation strategy, but it can be only one small part of a much larger strategy.


We've already decimated most of our Old Growth forests. There's zero reason to cut down the rest for what amounts to nil benefit.

We have million upon million acres of to replant without touching designated Old Growth.

It's also a terrible idea to plant trees in the Great Plains and savannas. It takes less than 5 minutes to discover that this idea is less than adequate. We already plant 75% of what this "plan" suggests. 25% more trees planted is nice, but not an actual solution.

How about a corn/tree hybrid?



When I talk about old growth, I'm pretty much talking about dead or dying trees being cut down and new trees planted. Some areas are worse than others but out here, environmentalists have gotten nuts about anyone taking trees down and to me, this shit is stupid. To me, it is just common sense.

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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


That is true and one of the main reasons why Trump withdrew the US from that environmental deal. But planting a lot of trees in the US and other countries would help the planet and have other benefits also and some here have mentioned. 8) 8)

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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?


Uh, no. It's reality. Do you have a suggestion to overcome this fact? Do you disagree that it is true? You're basically saying we have to do something even if it makes no difference at all. That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that there are big impacts that come with some of the proposed "solutions."


That is absolutely correct. That "deal" basically not only forced the US to spend beau coup money for huge changes to our industries and infrastructure but also allowed China, India and the other huge polluters to not do the same thing but also allowed them to build new carbon belching plants in their own countries. It was a stupid plan.

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America can do whatever it wants, but it is completely meaningless when most of the world has no restrictions whatsoever. China and India emit as much CO2 as the rest of the world combined.


This argument is a cynical attempt to justify the status quo. Do you also post as Boilermaker Rick?


Uh, no. It's reality. Do you have a suggestion to overcome this fact? Do you disagree that it is true? You're basically saying we have to do something even if it makes no difference at all. That doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that there are big impacts that come with some of the proposed "solutions."


The United States is the most powerful country in the world. If it wanted to do so, it certainly could "make a difference". The feigned helplessness articulated by the right with regards to climate change is transparent rubbish.


Not when you are talking about CO2 generation we aren't. The deal was pathetic and an economic disaster for the US to implement.

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