Nobody is questioning whether his feelings are real (except Hatchetman). The question is what those feelings mean.

The word "boy" has a meaning. The kid in question is obviously a boy. If you don't think so, we may as well just end the conversation here because it is impossible for us to communicate when we can't accept common definitions of words.

When the child says he is a girl, the first question the parent should ask is, "What do you think a girl is?"

If you think about it, the idea that a child who feels a particular way must be a girl is a really conservative one, i.e. that girls are like this and boys are like that.

That doesn't mean that you suppress anything. It's telling a child that hormone therapy and a complete transition are decisions that need to be made as an adult. You love him and allow him to express himself in whatever age appropriate way he desires.

We both know that MANY things we wanted or liked at 11 or 12 were different at 15. What we think are great ideas at 15 changes at 18. This pattern continues throughout life. An 11 or 12 year old can't understand that.

You are making an argument that the entire concept of transgender does not exist.

Is that what Wade is doing? Are they doing medical interventions?

I would ban those for anyone who isn't an adult.

This is a parenting problem IMO. No chance I'm supporting this in any way at 12.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I agree. AJ will love who he loves and sleep with whom he wants to sleep with. He will always be AJ and will always have male pronouns as far as we're concerned.

Lots of experts here.

Do they pump the kid with testosterone?

Pray away the girl?

I'll go out on a limb and claim Trans is a lot more prevalent than people think.

Lots of experts here.

Do they pump the kid with testosterone?

Pray away the girl?

I'll go out on a limb and claim Trans is a lot more prevalent than people think.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

How about just telling him he's fine the way he is. He's a boy and some boys feel exactly the way he does.

Lots of experts here.

Do they pump the kid with testosterone?

Pray away the girl?

I'll go out on a limb and claim Trans is a lot more prevalent than people think.

Ok...and when she tells you no, she's different...and you try to force the issue. It becomes your problem, not hers.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

He's 12.

When I was 12, I "was" Ryan Wetnight when we played schoolyard football because I was the chubby kid who played tight end.

No one has said anything like this. An 11 or 12 year old should not be able to make adult and life altering decisions. It's really that simple.

It's clearly not that simple.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

It's clearly not that simple.

Lots of experts here.

Do they pump the kid with testosterone?

Pray away the girl?

I'll go out on a limb and claim Trans is a lot more prevalent than people think.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Buncha Jordan Petersons in here.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Ok...and when she tells you no, she's different...and you try to force the issue. It becomes your problem, not hers.

This is more an indictment of the Bears tightend situation than anything.

Why do you disagree?

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

fixed gender definitions are being redefined.

Deal with it.

Every situation is different. Some gay people have clearly been gay since young childhood. It's not a choice. By puberty, it's pretty clear. This is genetic, chemical. In most situations, you have already been to psych doctors, pediatricians, specialists of all sorts. The child gets a say along the way. Let the child be who they want to be...fixed gender definitions are being redefined. Deal with it.

Surgery can wait til she's 18, imho. But, I'm not an expert...so maybe it's the best option in certain situations.

Exactly.



I would argue that you're the one who isn't dealing with it by enforcing the idea that there are specific ways girls feel and specific ways boys feel.

Whatever floats your boat. Not many will argue who's more open minded here.