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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.

Nike also took a very active role in LeBron from the very start. Nike hired his friends even without finishing college.

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He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.

Nike also took a very active role in LeBron from the very start. Nike hired his friends even without finishing college.


Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Maverick Carter. The greats don't need college.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.


Most professional athletes hang with guys who are nothing more than leeches. Then you have a kid like LeBron demanding unprecedented access for his team. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that they would be like most "friends" of athletes. They were ultimately wrong.

I'm fascinated by who you and others will and won't call racist.


Too much of a generalization. Guys with a privileged upbringing and/or stability at home are well-positioned to manage their wealth and group of friends/associates. Think Shaq, Kobe, etc.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.


Most professional athletes hang with guys who are nothing more than leeches. Then you have a kid like LeBron demanding unprecedented access for his team. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that they would be like most "friends" of athletes. They were ultimately wrong.

I'm fascinated by who you and others will and won't call racist.


Come on. If LeBron had a friend from Shaker Heights named Shlomo Glickstein handling his business affairs, do you think bernstein would have been so critical?

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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.


Most professional athletes hang with guys who are nothing more than leeches. Then you have a kid like LeBron demanding unprecedented access for his team. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that they would be like most "friends" of athletes. They were ultimately wrong.

I'm fascinated by who you and others will and won't call racist.


Come on. If LeBron had a friend from Shaker Heights named Shlomo Glickstein handling his business affairs, do you think bernstein would have been so critical?


Poor uneducated kids handed a shitload of cash for playing a sport usually have the wrong kind of friends. You could make the Bernstein and Jackson assumption and be right nearly every time. LeBron was an exception. MJ and Kobe weren't because they came from good families and had good support systems.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
He had a lot of hangers on. One of my friends used to own a car wash in Highland Park and Curry's boys would come in with his fancy sports cars. Then they would go back and play video games at Eddy's house. I picture it being like the mostly empty house in Boiler Room.

That's why it's so vile for dopes like bernstein and Phil Jackson to dismiss LeBron's guys as a "posse" or to intimate that he needs (((different))) advisors. It's racist as hell. Maverick Carter is a sharp motherfucker. Eddy's guys were not that.


Most professional athletes hang with guys who are nothing more than leeches. Then you have a kid like LeBron demanding unprecedented access for his team. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that they would be like most "friends" of athletes. They were ultimately wrong.

I'm fascinated by who you and others will and won't call racist.


Too much of a generalization. Guys with a privileged upbringing and/or stability at home are well-positioned to manage their wealth and group of friends/associates. Think Shaq, Kobe, etc.


Agreed. Forgot about Shaq. They'll still splurge and do stupid shit but they'll never go bankrupt.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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I had a co-worker that hated Eddie, while I was banking on those Bulls teams to bring back the glory. And he just kept saying, “he lost to Schaumburg High School”. The guy thought Eddie sucked just because of that.


He was on to something. While he was here one constant critique was that he just wasn't motivated to work on his game, to be great, etc. This is all pre-tragedy. In the age of the declining center, this 6-11 250+ dude averaged 5 rebounds per game. Scott Skiles famously said the key to Eddy becoming better at rebounding was to simply jump.


So many of these guys have near equivalent levels of talent, and it seems like the differentiator is competitiveness. Michael and Kobe seemed to be the two fiercest competitors, and it’s no surprise they were so successful. LeBron has been successful but with talent that exceeded those two. If he had the same fire, I suspect he would have won every year. Then you have the Curry types with talent but not enough desire to hit his potential. Nothing wrong with that, but just a shame to see it wasted.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddy Curry
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I had a co-worker that hated Eddie, while I was banking on those Bulls teams to bring back the glory. And he just kept saying, “he lost to Schaumburg High School”. The guy thought Eddie sucked just because of that.


He was on to something. While he was here one constant critique was that he just wasn't motivated to work on his game, to be great, etc. This is all pre-tragedy. In the age of the declining center, this 6-11 250+ dude averaged 5 rebounds per game. Scott Skiles famously said the key to Eddy becoming better at rebounding was to simply jump.


So many of these guys have near equivalent levels of talent, and it seems like the differentiator is competitiveness. Michael and Kobe seemed to be the two fiercest competitors, and it’s no surprise they were so successful. LeBron has been successful but with talent that exceeded those two. If he had the same fire, I suspect he would have won every year. Then you have the Curry types with talent but not enough desire to hit his potential. Nothing wrong with that, but just a shame to see it wasted.

I like to play video games too.....


Agreed. I see the path to greatness like this:

- You must fulfill physical prerequisites (height, athleticism, etc.)
- You must have the right mental disposition (work ethic, intelligence, drive, etc.)
- You must have the opportunity, which obviously not always in your control.

When I think of Kobe I think of optimization. He had the requisite physical characteristics, he had the right mental disposition, and through luck he got the right opportunity, then he optimized the shit out of all that. Left nothing on the court.

With Shaq and LBJ, they filled box 1 and kind of sort of filled box 2. Shaq had more opportunities to dominate the league than LBJ did until LBJ took control over his career. But even despite not being driven as Kobe they became wildly successful.

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Curry was the anti-Jordan. Where Jordan came into his talent relatively late and he used the fact that he wasn't always the best guy to drive himself, Curry always just dominated without needing to make an effort. When he ran into someone like the Pancratz kid who was willing to kill someone to win he didn't know what hit him.

But I'd say Curry was better than most people give him credit for. I'm not sure I've ever seen a big man with better hands. Lack of motivation was his problem.

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It would have been something if Eddie committed to the gym. He would have been dominant inside. I like the way you described those different elements.

Kobe and Michael were such killers on the court.

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The guy still really takes no responsibility for his actions. Everything was done to him. "I didn't know, I didn't know", even as you admit your wife was there telling you every step of the way what was happening.

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy who feels he was taken from his life's aspiration of being a stoned gamer 24/7.


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Couldn’t glean from the letter linked. Does he have anything left at all? Or is he just like any regular guy in Orland now or something?

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He last played for some Asian basketball league during the 2018-19 season. Before that he was out of basketball for 4-5 years or so

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He has some inneresting skills but he was never "good."

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