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Nas

Post subject: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:32 pm

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Where would you rank him when it comes to best players in baseball? I'm going top 60.

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Nas wrote:

Where would you rank him when it comes to best players in baseball? I'm going top 60.

Probably a top 15 hitter, maybe 15 starters and 5 relievers are better. So 30-35. He'd easily be the best player on any 4th or 5th place club, as well as a few 2nd/3rd place clubs.

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:52 pm

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He's gonna have a big year.

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:56 pm

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Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:56 pm

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No t counting pitchers I'm assuming.

I'd put him in the 35-40 range.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:57 pm

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GoldenJet wrote:

He's gonna have a big year.

I've been thinking this since 2016 and I've been wrong.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

Nas wrote:

Where would you rank him when it comes to best players in baseball? I'm going top 60.

Probably a top 15 hitter, maybe 15 starters and 5 relievers are better. So 30-35. He'd easily be the best player on any 4th or 5th place club, as well as a few 2nd/3rd place clubs.

You got him better than Acuna, Soto?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:57 pm

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In the 30-40ish range.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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312player wrote:

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

Nas wrote:

Where would you rank him when it comes to best players in baseball? I'm going top 60.

Probably a top 15 hitter, maybe 15 starters and 5 relievers are better. So 30-35. He'd easily be the best player on any 4th or 5th place club, as well as a few 2nd/3rd place clubs.

You got him better than Acuna, Soto?

I didn't make a list, but the guy did win an MVP. I figure 7-8 OF are better, 3-4 1B (Freeman for example), a couple of MI (Lindor), and Arenado.

I think he's even or slightly better than Machado, Judge, Stanton, Goldschmidt (starting to decline). Bergman is a toss up given that Bryant also plays 5 positions and doesn't have as good of lineup support.

Are there 20 more guys under 25 who will have better careers, like Soto? Absolutely, but that wasn't the original question.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

I'd like to see the pitcher bat 8th against LHP and have Almora bat 9th.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:22 pm

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

Is someone going to give Bryant $30 million to take pitches and draw walks? No. You want him to be a slugger.

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I'll go way out on a limb here and say he doesn't leadoff more than 60 games.

Is Nico the leadoff man by mid season?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Hes not a lead off hitter.
Best case scenario is hes a top 50 player overall. Top 20 infielder

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:07 pm

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Would like to see him healthy again. Top 20.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

Excellent baserunner

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:47 pm

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He's a good ball player. Not great.

But his agent thinks he's 300 million over 10 years. You don't do that. He's not that good.

Maybe he's top 25. But when you do that deal he's gonna suck in the last half of it. I don't get why teams don't realize this. Look at Albert Puhols. And when they signed him he was the best player. But he's been shit for the last 4 or 5 years.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:13 am

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All the followers are jumping on the bash Kris Bryant bandwagon. He's a top 15 or better player. Keep him at 3B and one spot in the order and he'll have a big year. He'll thrive leading off. Heyward couldn't hit leading off because he can't hit in any spot in the order

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Nas wrote:

GoldenJet wrote:

He's gonna have a big year.

I've been thinking this since 2016 and I've been wrong.

You're due.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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tommy wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

Excellent baserunner

No doubt.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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vitoscotti wrote:

Heyward would have had a decent season if not for the leadoff at bats. Joe really fucked him last year.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:57 am

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vitoscotti wrote:

On what planet is he top 15?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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312player wrote:

tommy wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Only caught part of it but Ross wants him to lead off?

That seems almost Schwarber like dumb.

Disagree..he can run and takes a lot of walks.

Excellent baserunner

No doubt.

Except when he dives head first into 3rd and fucks up his shoulder.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Nas wrote:

vitoscotti wrote:

On what planet is he top 15?

Cub Fan Fantasy Land

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HeS nOt A lEaDoFf HiTtEr

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IMU wrote:

HeS nOt A lEaDoFf HiTtEr

We'll find out.

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Funny how Joe had practically everyone try leadoff...except Bryant, who batted in each of the 2,3,4,5,7,9(!) spots.

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/282 ... son#slide7
FWIW...32nd on this list to start 2019. I don't think he did much to improve his standing. I'd still say he's between 30-40.

He's not a leadoff hitter, but the Cubs don't have a leadoff hitter right now. As of right now, it's hard to argue he's not the best option.

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