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I wouldn't get too worked up about this boys. TE is going to be like K last year in camp. Bring in 20 guys and see if someone works while we see if we can entice a pro bowl level player

They’ll draft a TE with one of the 2nd round picks.


Signing the proven Austin Hooper would be MUCH better.


TE seem to fail at such I high rate.

I look at the current FA group and it is littered with guys who were highly regarded four years ago. I remember guys like Clive Warford from the U and Nick Vannett from OSU

If you’re scared, go to church.

Every single position in football has highly regarded busts.

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I wouldn't get too worked up about this boys. TE is going to be like K last year in camp. Bring in 20 guys and see if someone works while we see if we can entice a pro bowl level player

They’ll draft a TE with one of the 2nd round picks.


Signing the proven Austin Hooper would be MUCH better.


TE seem to fail at such I high rate.

I look at the current FA group and it is littered with guys who were highly regarded four years ago. I remember guys like Clive Warford from the U and Nick Vannett from OSU

If you’re scared, go to church.

Every single position in football has highly regarded busts.


We need a guy who is excellent in year 1. Who was the last TE drafted in the second round or later to be impactful from his first day?

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When was Mark Andrews drafted?

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I wouldn't get too worked up about this boys. TE is going to be like K last year in camp. Bring in 20 guys and see if someone works while we see if we can entice a pro bowl level player

They’ll draft a TE with one of the 2nd round picks.


Signing the proven Austin Hooper would be MUCH better.


TE seem to fail at such I high rate.

I look at the current FA group and it is littered with guys who were highly regarded four years ago. I remember guys like Clive Warford from the U and Nick Vannett from OSU


That's why signing a proven 25 year old makes the most sense.

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Ok, let’s sign Hooper.

That frees up one of the draft picks if I were GM.

Maybe now I’m looking at CB in the 2nd round to go along with the offensive tackle I’m taking with the other 2nd round pick.

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Or do I still draft a TE with the hope running multiple TE sets will help Mitch’s development?

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Or do I still draft a TE with the hope running multiple TE sets will help Mitch’s development?


Hooper should be fine and you still have Burton possibly returning. Too many other needs to invest a draft pick on a TE after signing Hooper.

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Or do I still draft a TE with the hope running multiple TE sets will help Mitch’s development?


Hooper should be fine and you still have Burton possibly returning.

Nas... Come on.

There’s no way you resign Trey Burton.

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I think Burton has 1 more year left.


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Sorry, Bills. Just checked...one more year left.


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I look at the current FA group and it is littered with guys who were highly regarded four years ago. I remember guys like Clive Warford from the U and Nick Vannett from OSU


Clive Walford looked really good his rookie year. Good hands. Had some ATV accident and that was it.

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For 6'7" 230, I'd rather have Harold Carmichael than this bum. And Harold just turned 70.

Hell Harold Washington was a better ball catcher than this bum. Although he might have been a split end.

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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Offseason Moves
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The Chicago Bears have agreed to terms with tight end Demetrius Harris on a one-year deal, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per sources informed of the situation.

Much like his move to Cleveland to reunite with former Chiefs general manager John Dorsey, Harris is again packing his bags to team up with a familiar face. This time, it's Bears coach Matt Nagy, who spent time with Harris in Kansas City before he left to take the Bears job.


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If the Browns didn't even want this guy, there has to be a reason.


Yeah I was kinda wondering this myself. Njoku is most likely on his way out of Cleveland, and their only other TE is Seals-Jones and whatever they do in the draft.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Offseason Moves
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From Bearswire:

5 things to know about new Bears TE Demetrius Harris

1. Harris outperformed every Bears tight end in 2019
When you look at how Bears tight ends performed as a whole in 2019, it’s hard not to find a tight end that performed worse than Chicago’s collective group. With Harris joining the roster, he immediately becomes the Bears’ most productive weapon from a season ago, with 15 receptions for 149 yards and three touchdowns.

That says more about Chicago’s struggles than Harris’ success, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to bring in a guy that had more production than every other tight end on your roster a season ago.

2. Matt Nagy coached Harris in Kansas City
The moment the Browns released Harris on Monday, he became a popular candidate to reunite with Matt Nagy in Chicago. Harris played with the Chiefs from 2014-2018, including in 2017 when Nagy served as offensive coordinator.

Now, Harris is certainly no Travis Kelce (and the Bears will likely target a bigger name in free agency and the NFL draft to fill that role). But he is familiar with Nagy’s system and you figure Nagy has enough familiarity with Harris to believe he can help the Bears in 2020.

3. Harris played the “U” and “Y” tight end with Chiefs
Harris’ familiarity with Nagy’s offense certainly helps. While Harris has played both the “U” (move) and “Y” (blocking) tight end in this same system with the Chiefs, he figures to serve primarily as the team’s “Y” tight end.

Adam Shaheen, whose future is uncertain, currently serves as the “Y” tight end, and Harris will be great competition at the position — and will likely oust Shaheen from the starting job.

4. Harris didn’t play football in college
Interestingly enough, Chicago’s newest — and most productive, as of last season — tight end didn’t even play college football. Like Shaheen, Harris played basketball in college.

Harris, who stands tall at 6-foot-7 and 230 pounds, played college basketball at Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent in 2013, where he spent his first five seasons with the Chiefs. Harris’ size makes him an intriguing possibility as a red zone threat.

5. Harris is one of the league’s best blocking tight ends
Yes, Harris had more receiving yards than any Bears tight end did in 2019. But it’s Harris’ blocking skills that were some of the best in the NFL. He was the ninth-best blocking tight end in the league in 2019. Given that Harris is likely to serve as the “Y” tight end in Nagy’s offense, it certainly helps that blocking is one of his biggest strengths.


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1. Harris outperformed every Bears tight end in 2019


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1. Harris outperformed every Bears tight end in 2019
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Who didn't?
That dude in Miami who lost his arm in a car crash during the preseason?


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1. Harris outperformed every Bears tight end in 2019
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Who didn't?
That dude in Miami who lost his arm in a car crash during the preseason?


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It would be great if he truly is a great blocking TE. It is exactly what we need.

I'm a bit skeptical of the rankings and wonder how a 230 pound TE is holding up against DE when 245 is generally a little small.

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Derek Carr posts photo with Khalil Mack, adding to Bears trade rumors
https://us.yahoo.com/sports/derek-carr-posts-photo-khalil-060607779.html

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Damn... Inhope I’m wrong, and he’d actually be willing to move from Cali to Chicago.

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Damn... Inhope I’m wrong, and he’d actually be willing to move from Cali to Chicago.


He's going to get cut soon and he's signaling to the Bears that he wants to go there.

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Damn... Inhope I’m wrong, and he’d actually be willing to move from Cali to Chicago.


He's going to get cut soon and he's signaling to the Bears that he wants to go there.

Yep, that’s what my guy says too.

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I am all for Derek Carr, I think he's a tremendously underrated quarterback, but if they get him the next priority has to be protection. It all means nothing if they trot Leno and Massie back out there at the tackles.


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Demetrius Harris is a solid pickup.

Derek Carr isn't the answer.

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Demetrius Harris is a solid pickup.
After 6 seasons in the NFL, which of his stats leads you to believe he is a solid pick-up? The 72 receptions in 86 games?

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Demetrius Harris is a solid pickup.
After 6 seasons in the NFL, which of his stats leads you to believe he is a solid pick-up? The 72 receptions in 86 games?

I don't know in his first few years how much he played, he never played college football. Played College Basketball at Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

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Derek Carr isn't bad. WOULD.

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Derek Carr isn't the answer.
Probably not long term, but what if its a legit competition in camp and Carr out plays/practices Mitch?

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