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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


No he isn't. He is still young and can hit and hit with power. He's still got a chance to make the major leagues.

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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


No he isn't. He is still young and can hit and hit with power. He's still got a chance to make the major leagues.



He statistically has a chance, yes. But he is done.


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I think Burger quit baseball

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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


No he isn't. He is still young and can hit and hit with power. He's still got a chance to make the major leagues.



He statistically has a chance, yes. But he is done.


What do you base that on? Has he quit? I've read nothing that he has quit He still is ranked among the top prospects of the White Sox isn't he? If he has quit, then okay. But if he is recovered from those two Achilles injuries and is playing this season, then it is another thing. I followed this guy a bit along with some other guys in college a few years ago and the guy he reminds me of is Vaughn hitting wise. Same power and build.

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I think Burger quit baseball


I haven't seen anything about him quitting. Have you somewhere?

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The Hawk wrote:
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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


No he isn't. He is still young and can hit and hit with power. He's still got a chance to make the major leagues.



He statistically has a chance, yes. But he is done.


What do you base that on? Has he quit? I've read nothing that he has quit He still is ranked among the top prospects of the White Sox isn't he? If he has quit, then okay. But if he is recovered from those two Achilles injuries and is playing this season, then it is another thing. I followed this guy a bit along with some other guys in college a few years ago and the guy he reminds me of is Vaughn hitting wise. Same power and build.



You have too much bias towards this guy. You've gone the blinders on. I think the tweets about him this offseason, have pretty much said he is done.


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You have too much bias towards this guy. You've gone the blinders on. I think the tweets about him this offseason, have pretty much said he is done.

Since when have tweets about a player ever determined whether a player can make it in the major leagues or not? As for "bias" and "blinders" on for Burger, that's pretty funny. As far as I am concerned, I'd give the kid a chance to play in the minor leagues for a full season before I'd make a guess whether or not he is legit or not. :P :P :P

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The Hawk wrote:
Cashman wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


No he isn't. He is still young and can hit and hit with power. He's still got a chance to make the major leagues.



He statistically has a chance, yes. But he is done.


What do you base that on? Has he quit? I've read nothing that he has quit He still is ranked among the top prospects of the White Sox isn't he? If he has quit, then okay. But if he is recovered from those two Achilles injuries and is playing this season, then it is another thing. I followed this guy a bit along with some other guys in college a few years ago and the guy he reminds me of is Vaughn hitting wise. Same power and build.

He has a puss arm and is fat and snapped his achilles twice.


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You have too much bias towards this guy. You've gone the blinders on. I think the tweets about him this offseason, have pretty much said he is done.

Since when have tweets about a player ever determined whether a player can make it in the major leagues or not? As for "bias" and "blinders" on for Burger, that's pretty funny. As far as I am concerned, I'd give the kid a chance to play in the minor leagues for a full season before I'd make a guess whether or not he is legit or not. :P :P :P



The parroting....


Why would I have a bias against him? We literally have 0 depth at 3B within the system. If Moncada goes down, we are fucked.


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Cashman wrote:
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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


I'm more concerned with the statement that after the top 4 prospects, "there's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm."

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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


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Cashman wrote:
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You have too much bias towards this guy. You've gone the blinders on. I think the tweets about him this offseason, have pretty much said he is done.

Since when have tweets about a player ever determined whether a player can make it in the major leagues or not? As for "bias" and "blinders" on for Burger, that's pretty funny. As far as I am concerned, I'd give the kid a chance to play in the minor leagues for a full season before I'd make a guess whether or not he is legit or not. :P :P :P



The parroting....


Why would I have a bias against him? We literally have 0 depth at 3B within the system. If Moncada goes down, we are fucked.


I didn't say that you have a bias against him. and we have depth at 3B also with both Mendick and Garcia. There is a reason why Burger was selected in the first round and it is his bat. The kid can rake.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


I'm more concerned with the statement that after the top 4 prospects, "there's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm."


I disagree with that assessment. They certainly have some very good younger prospect in their system, especially outfield and first base/DH possibilities as well as a crop of good pitching prospects.

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The Hawk wrote:
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You have too much bias towards this guy. You've gone the blinders on. I think the tweets about him this offseason, have pretty much said he is done.

Since when have tweets about a player ever determined whether a player can make it in the major leagues or not? As for "bias" and "blinders" on for Burger, that's pretty funny. As far as I am concerned, I'd give the kid a chance to play in the minor leagues for a full season before I'd make a guess whether or not he is legit or not. :P :P :P



The parroting....


Why would I have a bias against him? We literally have 0 depth at 3B within the system. If Moncada goes down, we are fucked.


I didn't say that you have a bias against him. and we have depth at 3B also with both Mendick and Garcia. There is a reason why Burger was selected in the first round and it is his bat. The kid can rake.



I think it is shaping up, to not be a good draft.


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Tall Midget wrote:
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Robert, Vaughn, Kopech and Madrigal all rank among the game's 40 best prospects, though the talent in the system falls off quickly behind them. There's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm, and Jonathan Stiever is the only other mid-rotation starter who's fully healthy and has pitched above rookie ball


https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2020-top-30-prospects-list



Every god damn list that is put out(even white sox websites), as Jake Burger in the top 30. He is fucking done with Baseball!


I'm more concerned with the statement that after the top 4 prospects, "there's not another obvious quality big league regular down on the farm."



Yeah, nothing is screaming MLB arm, but there are atleast 2 or 3 with the signing of that Cuban that I have high hopes for.


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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

Dunning was well on track to be a solid MLB starter before the injury. I was a big fan. That's obviously up in the air now.


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For those who like watching minor leaguers, the Winston-salem, Kannapolis, Charlotte trio is a great trip. Easy logistics, good food along the way. I've been to Winston-Salem, but I'm hoping to do a Charlotte/Kannapolis pair this summer.

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The Hawk wrote:
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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.



I want Burdi to succeed, I hope he is ready.


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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

Dunning was well on track to be a solid MLB starter before the injury. I was a big fan. That's obviously up in the air now.



I was 50/50 on him. I am just not 100% in favor of finesse pitchers.


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Cashman wrote:
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They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

Dunning was well on track to be a solid MLB starter before the injury. I was a big fan. That's obviously up in the air now.



I was 50/50 on him. I am just not 100% in favor of finesse pitchers.


How is he a finesse pitcher? I don't think that he is that at all. He has struck out way more than one guy per inning in his career. He also has good control. He doesn't nibble out there. He goes right after hitters.

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The Hawk wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Nardi wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

Dunning was well on track to be a solid MLB starter before the injury. I was a big fan. That's obviously up in the air now.



I was 50/50 on him. I am just not 100% in favor of finesse pitchers.


How is he a finesse pitcher? I don't think that he is that at all. He has struck out way more than one guy per inning in his career. He also has good control. He doesn't nibble out there. He goes right after hitters.



Low 90s FB before TJ.


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Cashman wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Cashman wrote:
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The Hawk wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
They have some pretty intriguing arms.


Burdi looks impressive to me for sure. I like the way he carries himself on the mound and goes after hitters. I'd like to see Dunning pitch also.

Dunning was well on track to be a solid MLB starter before the injury. I was a big fan. That's obviously up in the air now.



I was 50/50 on him. I am just not 100% in favor of finesse pitchers.


How is he a finesse pitcher? I don't think that he is that at all. He has struck out way more than one guy per inning in his career. He also has good control. He doesn't nibble out there. He goes right after hitters.



Low 90s FB before TJ.


He hit 95 before TJ and he has what they call a heavy fastball meaning he breaks a lot of bats with late movement. He is not a "finesse" pitcher.

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He hit 95 before TJ and he has what they call a heavy fastball meaning he breaks a lot of bats with late movement. He is not a "finesse" pitcher.



He isn't consistently throwing 95. That's not a strike out pitcher.

Are others on here, allowed to have educated opinions on the Sox? Or are you the only one?

Burger is not done
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He hit 95 before TJ and he has what they call a heavy fastball meaning he breaks a lot of bats with late movement. He is not a "finesse" pitcher.



He isn't consistently throwing 95. That's not a strike out pitcher.

Really? I thought strike-out pitchers were pitchers who strike a lot of batter out? YOu have a different definition? What is it? Dunning has struck out far more than one batter per inning and scouts tout his PLUS fastball. You said the guy is a finesse pitcher. You are wrong. It is as simple as that.

Are others on here, allowed to have educated opinions on the Sox? Or are you the only one?

Sure. But don't expect your statements to go unchallenged when you say stuff like Dunning being a "finesse" pitcher.

Burger is not done

If he isn't retired, then he isn't done as witnessed by a major league team listing him among their top prospects in 2020. Do you have other information to dispute the White Sox organization's evaluation? If so, please educate me.

Mercedes is the next DH

I think that he has a shot of making the club in 2020. And yeah, I think that this guy can be a very good power hitter down the road. You tell me that he can't because he is 27 years old. I think that is pretty silly to say.
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He hit 95 before TJ and he has what they call a heavy fastball meaning he breaks a lot of bats with late movement. He is not a "finesse" pitcher.



He isn't consistently throwing 95. That's not a strike out pitcher.

Really? I thought strike-out pitchers were pitchers who strike a lot of batter out? YOu have a different definition? What is it? Dunning has struck out far more than one batter per inning and scouts tout his PLUS fastball. You said the guy is a finesse pitcher. You are wrong. It is as simple as that.

Are others on here, allowed to have educated opinions on the Sox? Or are you the only one?

Sure. But don't expect your statements to go unchallenged when you say stuff like Dumming being a "finesse" pitcher.

Burger is not done

If he isn't retired, then he isn't done as witnessed by a major league team listing him among their top prospects in 2020. Do you have other information to dispute the White Sox organization's evaluation? If so, please educate me.

Mercedes is the next DH

I think that he has a shot of making the club in 2020. And yeah, I think that this guy can be a very good power hitter down the road. You tell me that he can't because he is 27 years old. I think that is pretty silly to say.
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Again with the parroting.


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Dunning could touch 97, he had some zip no doubt. I have a feeling he'll be starting games at some point. Love his profile.


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Dunning could touch 97, he had some zip no doubt. I have a feeling he'll be starting games at some point. Love his profile.



I thought I read 96, but we dont need to split hairs. I am excited to see him in the rotation at some point. I like him as a pitcher. I do like his command.


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