But once again, no one is sticking with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky as the starter. You want him cut. That's why you are wrong.

I will be very happy if another quarterback is wearing a Bears uniform who outperforms him and wins the job.

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If you can tell who a realistic replacement would be that is an actual improvement, and who doesn't financially cripple the team then I'm with you.

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Plenty of guys happy to stick with him as the starter. I want him out of the starter spot - whether that happens by demotion or termination is irrelevant to me.

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What does financially cripple here mean? The defense is ready to win today.

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Are you sure? I mean, if Teddy Bridgewater wanted to sign here for the league minimum you think anyone is saying (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky should have the job?

The argument is mostly about how the cap space makes it hard to spend $30 million a year on Bridgewater no matter what you think of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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Already covered that on the last page; Even old man Brady, as statuesque as he may be, would likely be an upgrade from Mitch.

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Pace wants him as starter and about 60 percent of the board does too.

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He's the only starter quality player that the Bears currently have under contract. Is Pace going to say that a player not on the team is the player he wants to be the starter?

I think you are wrong about 60 percent of the board. I hope they find a better option that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in free agency or in the draft. It would be great if you had someone come in and beat him.

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No, but he also doesn't need to go the other route and declare that Mitch is the guy.

He should give the standard non-answer answer that MANY GMs would give. Something to the effect of, "We stand behind Mitch and we feel he has a lot of talent. We will also look at our options in free agency and the draft with regard to all our positions, including quarterback. We will see what happens in OTAs and training camp, and can talk about the depth chart at the end of August."

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No GM is going to say that unless they are cutting the quarterback. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is the only known player at this point who will be playing to be the starter next year. We will see what he does in free agency and the draft but I'll be shocked if the job is handed to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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I do not think Mitch is playing to be the starter. I hope you are right, but I think that Pace has Mitch penciled in as his #1 QB. I think Nagy has probably accepted this, but holds out hope that it may be somebody else.

I agree with you that there is no point to cutting him. Even if he is the #3 emergency QB, there is no real benefit to him being off the Bears roster by any other reason than a trade.

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This is a tough statement to agree with but since they did finish 8-8 and 10 wins might have gotten them into the playoffs, I guess you are correct. Still....they would have been wiped in the first round of playoffs with a better QB.

Mitch was a problem
the Offensive line was an equal or even bigger problem.
Head coach was clearly a problem, as well.

You put in an average QB and you still have a QB running for his life every game.

I'm done with Mitch as many others are, but the Bears have other problems and given how difficult it is to find an elite QB, I like their odds better with the SF approach.

My prediction is Mitch plays elsewhere in 2021....as a backup.

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Tough or not, it's the truth. It also highlights just how bad Mitch is. The defense has issues last year. Piniero missed kicks last year. There were injuries to vital players. There was questionable- at best- play calling nearly every game. There were inopportune penalties. The OLine was full of turnstyles. The blew a double digit 4th quarter lead to the fucking Chargers. Cue Furious to let us know that Mack disappeared. ALL of those issues aside, if Mitch had played well enough to rank in the middle third of NFL QBs as opposed to the bottom third which is where he ended up, the Bears are a playoff team.

Maybe they beat a hapless Eagles team, or the D gets it together and plays their ass off to beat the Saints. But even if they had gone 10-6 and got blown out in the Superdome, we would still feel a lot better heading into 2020 than we do.

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Financially cripple means you can't sign any other FA to fill the other significant holes. Relying on draft picks when you don't even have a 1st seems like a recipe for disaster if you believe they are a SB contender.

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Yes Carr would be an upgrade as would Brady. The caveat noted above is the financial penalty for those signings. A solid QB with numerous other offensive holes is not good enough to win a SB. Maybe you could sneak into the playoffs but is that the goal?

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I guess I'm just amazed at how that team was 8-8. That was a really bad 8-8 team

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All of this what if stuff is nonsense about the BEars being a "play-off" team. This team sucked last year offensively and you can put at least 70% of the fault on the offensive line and TE. Spread the other 30% where you will.

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The bears statistically were a playoff team on defense. If not for the dumbass at QB we're in the playoffs. Get a new horse to back.

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Mitch is fucking terrible can we stop talking about it now?

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You guys are overly critical. I like Mitch. I like him even better than Cutler. He should definitely be the starting QB next season. They should also sign him to an extension.

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I like him the same amount as Cutty, not at all. Both are too dumb to rely upon and won't ever win dick.

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Cutler in 2019 wins more games than 8 with this defense.

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Agreed, but neither are any good. I'd give Jay - c minus and Mitch D plus.

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It would be one thing if they had a decent number of draft picks but they don't. It also would be another thing if they had a bunch of money to spend on a free agent qb or trade for one but they don't have that either. And then you really don't have a lot of quarterback talent out there to bring in that isn't old and creaky or has been an under performer elsewhere.

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I do not care anything about what they were statistically. The defense was good but not great but the offense was lousy. That is the TRUTH. Our OLINE including the TEs is the worst in the NFC. We have one running back that cannot cut back and another one that is too slow to the hole. OF course there aren't any holes because they can't run block either.

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I think you would be surprised at how mediocre Bridgewater would be here. If you expected the same Bridgewater that played in NO last season, you would be very disappointed.

Lets see. You want MItch gone. Okay. He's gone. Exactly who comes in and plays quarterback and what do they spend to do that? And given how much money that will cost, what do they do with the rest of the team in the following positions, tight end, LOT, ROT, LG, RB1, RB2, CB1, OLB1.

This stuff about replacing (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a pipe dream. They cannot and will not do it because they cannot afford to do it and be viable as a team. All they can do at this point it to HOPE LIKE HELL that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can play at a high level and that they can somehow have a miracle happen that finds them at least four high quality offensive starting players. Only if that happen could this team be a decent offensive team and maybe make the play-offs. But even that is a long shot because we really do not know if Nagy can script an offense for the BEars?

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I've listed who might be able to replace him, and every time I do you run away and don't reply again. I'm not going thru this in another thread. Use the search function to find my posts, or don't cuz I don't really give a shit.

You think Mitch is great you think Rodon is great. There is nothing that leads me to believe this will be true for the upcoming season. I would love it if you were right. I am 99% sure you will be wrong though.

And you can talk all about TE, Oline, CB 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and whatever other position you want. Either you didn't read my post or you didn't comprehend it because I already stated that all things remaining equal, had the Bears gotten just barely mediocre play out of the quarterback position last season, they make the "play-offs." QB was their biggest problem, bar none. It's what held them back the most.

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First of all, I don't runaway from anything or anyone. However, I don't choose to reply sometimes when the reply is asinine which yours frequently are. As for Mitch being great, I've never said that. What I said is the the Bears really don't have anything decent in front of him that is even average. As for Rodon, being great I never said that either. You decided because he got hurt that he was worthless and I said that was bullshit. I like his mechanics and his "stuff" and still think that he can be a good major league pitcher.

What, though, do you F*ing mean about "all things remaining equal" if the Bears had gotten barely mediocre play out of their qb they make the play-offs? That is total crap as a statement. They had a TERRIBLE offensive line last year. They had a TERRIBLE TE group last year. They had BELOW average RBS last year and a less than good receiver group also. SO...... ALL THINGS WERE NOT EQUAL LAST YEAR.

You see, Frank, it takes more than just a quarterback to have a winning play-off team. You absolutely need the people up front to block for both the qb and the running backs and the Bears, including the TEs are bad at it. IN addition, the BEars are not gifted with running backs who can break tackles and so-called RUNNING TO DAYLIGHT. We have one guy who is too small to break tackles and another guy who cannot cut back worth a crap.

Frankly I am sick of the offense that the Chicago Bears has put in front of the fans for many bleeping years and it basically comes down to this. The talent people of the BEars throughout many GM's have failed to invest in offensive linemen and tight ends. Its a joke and a sad one. The mistakes that they have made in the signing and re-signing of Leno and Massie have screwed them once again. They suck and they have to pay them. I read some article yesterday talking about those two immense blobs of worthless goo being once again the starting two tackles for next season. This sealed it for me. The Bears are going to suck next year. ANd finding some other quarterback to put in front of that offensive line isn't going to improve this team one iota.

For the record also I like Bridgewater as a QB and IF the Bears had money that they could afford to pay him, then I'd say fine. BUT THEY DON'T have that kind of money. Plus where they SHOULD spend their money and draft picks on are a tight end, two good tackles, and a guard to replace Long.

So, Frank, that is my reply to you. Live in your pipe dream world of the Bears just being a decent quarterback away from being a play-off team if you will. I am a realist and know better.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip