These media companies keep getting too big for their own good. Look at Entercom gobbling up the major-market clusters from CBS. Tanked them. Stick to Milwaukee, honey!

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GO FUCKING FIGURE. MARQUEE POPS UP ON HULU TODAY.....

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What a huge loss the network will be for ownership this year.

It’s a long term project. It is much better than the WGN Tribune deal. It’s going to bring them into the big leagues revenue wise.

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Penny wise, pound foolish. They will lose future long term fans because it's hard to watch the games.

That happened as soon as the super station concept died. I miss those days, but it was a poor revenue contract.

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Even before the superstation in the 60's/70's kids used to run home after school and find the game on WGN. Now all these hoops to jump through..if it's not easy accessable, they aren't going to watch.

Plus 35 or so night games. I hate it.

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The roll-out seems pretty fucked up to begin with..maybe they should have launched the network with a small % of their games on their to begin with with standard carriers for the others...but it was an all or nothing approach and it appears to be a disaster

Didn't it seem more difficult when the games were spread among CSN-Chi, WGN, ABC-7, and 26 the U?

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Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

It shouldn't have been difficult as I always posted the channel in the my Cubs game threads!

Yeah but the dash was a pain on DTV when both Chicago teams were on CSN.

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I had switched to YouTube TV when I saw that for less money I was getting CSN and CSN+. Now I'm just waiting to see if Marquee gets added.

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Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

Kids don't even know what WGN is now. They wouldn't watch it even if it streamed directly to their phone for free.

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Let's face it, people became Cubs fans in the 60# and 70s as little kids because there was nothing else to watch on TV all afternoon all summer but soap operas, you can only play outside with Timmy down the block so much before you wanted to punch him in the face, and you were too young to masturbate.

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WGN also had the Cubs on the Super Station, so I'm sure having them on cable nationally probably helped build the team's fanbase outside of the area.

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Super Tuesday
Superman
Super Bowl

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They also had great, local children's programming before school

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And men have lost their reason.

It really isn't a long term project. Cable is becoming less important every year due to cord cutting as you yourself have already done. It's more about extracting the last bit of value out of the cable companies desperately trying to keep subscribers who want live sports but I'm not sure the ratings of local baseball teams are proving to be effective in providing value for that. The Big Ten Network and ESPN sure can do that but there are 10x as many customers to lose from not having those are there are from even the most popular regional teams.

The Cubs will eventually give in to Comcast on their demands.

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I assume that means Marquee will go on the Sports Tier, and the cost for that tier will go from $10 to something like $14? Maybe it should only go to $12, since $10 was the charge when the Cubs were part of that package.

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They could still put it on basic, but give them so far below what they are asking for that it ends up being roughly the same. That let's the Cubs save face while Comcast wins. The Cubs also get to tell advertisers about how many televisions have access to it even though regional baseball channels get a very small amount of viewers at any one time.

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You sure about that? So in like five years the Cubs will go back to a regular network? And so the year one performance is really important because it is just a short term, temporary thing?

Or as seems to be the case, is Marquee a perpetual venture that will be measured over a long time horizon. The rocky start sure to be forgotten when the Cubs are generating extra tv revenue that allows them to compete better with the richest teams, Dodgers and Yankees.

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I don't know what it will look like in 5 years but the concept of regional sports networks are going to continue to diminish and be replaced by something else. MLB wants it to be mlb.tv but that will be quite a revenue sharing fight.

It may last a while but the returns are going to diminish significantly as more fans cut cable like you have. You can squeeze some money out of hulu but those price savings you see with hulu won't justify the high costs for long that they want from Comcast.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The Twins, Royals, and Bobcats all tried to launch their own RSNs and they failed and went back, tails tucked, to Fox. The Astros launched their own RSN and it was a complete disaster that went bankrupt. The Dodgers have their channel but hardly anyone in greater Los Angeles can watch the games; the extent to which such a situation can be considered a success is debatable.

I don't think Marquee will fold, but it's not going to be the license to print money that they thought it would be. Those days are gone, but dammit, they wanted to start a Cubs channel seven or eight years ago and now they're gonna, no matter how much the media landscape has changed since then. The math of leaving a Comcast-owned channel to compete with that Comcast-owned channel while trying to be carried on Comcast never added up. They'll get modest carriage fees, burn a lot of goodwill, and ultimately they would have been better off staying where they were.

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Why on earth would the Bobcats try to start their own network?

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What are the Bobcats? The precursor to the Hornets?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yup.

I'd love to see a countdown of the Top 10 games in their franchise history.

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No idea. I just remember that it was going to be called C-SET, it flopped, and they wound up on the Charlotte version of CLTV for a while instead.

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Interesting. Between what you and CH said, I never thought of it like that.

I am really enjoying Hulu Live. The technology is solid in that I easily watch their entire offering on my iphone, ipad, or any tv in the house. Directv’s mobile stuff was very clunky.

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I have Hulu, but not Hulu Live.
I guess I'm with you, Pat Hughes....or ESPN and FOX.

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