People's rights are trampled on every day. Those accused of crimes but not convicted have their rights stripped from them for years at a time. I haven't seen you start one thread about that.

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Yes. Where have you been? Every type of offense. I imagine that it happens to poor people and minorities all across the country. Definitely in CC.

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Lol. He thinks this happens only in Chicago!

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If JB wants to declare martial law over the flu he should do that. We'll see how that goes over with the electorate.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Does one lose the right to complain about something if they haven't complained about everything?
If I became aware of a specific rights violation I'm sure I would have discussed it. I'm not shy.

Why don't you come out and say what you're really trying to say.

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Knowing the libertarian hotbed the clubhouse is I imagine we’ll come out of the draft well armed.

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Interesting. Years in jail without any type of trial?
That kind of thing should certainly get more attention. I'd like to hear more about it. Is there a "famous case recently I ahould look up?

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That was t the question

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Here's a decent primer https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.co ... liver-bail

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SS can we sue to like, reverse that

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Guilty or not most people take a plea. Then you have Kalief Browder who spends over 3 years in jail for allegedly stealing a backpack and he refuses to take a plea despite the vicious beatings and sexual assaults. He spent 2 of those years in solitary confinement in Rikers before the DA finally dropped his case. Years later he committed suicide.

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Read it. This conversation wasn't about bail, however. Interesting article. I'm not sure what the authors alternative plan is however.

Back to the original conversation, though... this is a fascinating test of what Americans will tolerate when it comes to the government trampling on the rights of innocent people. Can the government get away with declaring an emergency and suspension of rights over a couple thousand people with the flu? I hope not. But if so... what else could be an emergency?

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No! Everyone accused of a crime is guilty. If they aren't guilty then why were they charged with committing a crime in the first place?

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You haven't even tested whether or not this right will be trampled on and are upset. Meanwhile MANY people's speedy trial rights actually are trampled on every day and you care not. Why is that?

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Interesting story. That's terrible. Clearly bullshit. The people not ready. The people not ready. The people not ready. That DA should be in jail.

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I'm not upset. I'm asking a question.
I have a specific question for you. Am I not allowed to ask if something is illegal if I didn't complain about an unrelated rights violation? Would I be required to complain about every rights violation before I can discuss one that happened a few hours ago? That seems unreasonable. I'm going to assume this is trolling. If you would like to address the topic as originally posted we can. If you'd like to discuss your unrelated issue, start a thread about it and I'll discuss it with you.

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Patriot Act

Truthfully, we're a bunch of pussies who are afraid of our own shadow. We need the illusion of safety despite all of our tough talk. Because if something slightly throws our day off, we'll have a panic attack and BEG the government to come in and save us.

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My friend I've been bitching about the patriot act since it was passed. Truly.

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Let’s sue em anyway man

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

No it's fair to complain about this. It's just as fair for me to question why you are more interested in this right (which hasn't been infringed upon yet) over others, which are infringed upon every single day.

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Ok.

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The 4th amendment has been gutted and very few said a word because it was done in the name of "public safety". A magazine restriction is seen as trampling the 2nd amendment and will be fought to the death.

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Is the potential infringement of your rights more important than the actual infringement of other people's rights?

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Well neither is really what i was asking about the legality of in this thread. This was literally in the news in the last few hours. It's rare you see the governor of a state bragging about busting up lawful gatherings. Thought it might be worth discussing. I was unaware of the prerequisite complaining SS mentioned.

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Like for example, your right to posit a strawman argument?
Although you're clearly trolling, the answer is any violation of constitutional rights is a problem.

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Are people being put in jail for expressing their right to free assembly? Let's test the theory. Is it potentially chilling free speech? Yeah, probably. Is there a logical reason that crow sizes are being limited? Yeah,

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Seems an arbitrary number doesn't it? I mean, theres probably that many people in a cheesecake factory or at pinstripes on a weekend. Is that ok? Is pritzker actually talking about shutting down being alleys and large chain restaurants?

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But everybody should go to high school? What....

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You know me like that.

Oh for the record it's not really a free speech concern. It was more about assembly.

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