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 Post subject: Re: 1917
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:26 pm 
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War movies are too white and male

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COUNTERPOINT: the white men get to die

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That's why I say take note when using the white male as a punching bag. They have a history. When they say,"I just don't give a fuck", they really mean it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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On one hand I need this film to get another month run in theaters so I can see it, but on the other hand I dont want it to win Best Picture under any circumstances.


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On one hand I need this film to get another month run in theaters so I can see it, but on the other hand I dont want it to win Best Picture under any circumstances.

Why not?

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Well it sucked. I dont know where the hype comes from, at all. The historical inaccuracies and cartoonishly evil depiction of German soldiers are one thing, but the script blew. I hated it. The fact that it was one massive take made it all seem unrealistically hectic. Nothing made any sense.

Setpieces were great. Costumes were cool. Eh that's about it. Massive disappointment.


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Watching now.

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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Antarctica wrote:
The historical inaccuracies


How would you know? You're a fucking idiot. I'm not the smartest guy on this board by a long shot, but when it comes to anything but sports, you are a massive fucking idiot.

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The fact that it was one massive take made it all seem unrealistically hectic. Nothing made any sense.

Agree with this. WWI was as smooth and streamlined as a Ford factory. It was the place where confusion went to die.


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Have another drink there big boy.


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Antarctica wrote:
Well it sucked. I dont know where the hype comes from, at all. The historical inaccuracies and cartoonishly evil depiction of German soldiers are one thing, but the script blew. I hated it. The fact that it was one massive take made it all seem unrealistically hectic. Nothing made any sense.

Setpieces were great. Costumes were cool. Eh that's about it. Massive disappointment.


Sam Mendes is pretty terrible.

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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Life in the trenches has been characterized by many sources, from the British side, as long period of boredom punctuated by terror. I've read Seigfreid Sassoon and Robert Graves' first-hand accounts of the war. They don't jive at all with this film.

Of course reading books about this time in history is only for idiots. What we really need are the pop-history podcasts and stupid movies that inform the opinion of drunk retards like tommy.


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It wasn't a documentary.

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No, it was just a shitty movie.


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It wasn't a documentary.


"They Shall Not Grow Old" and BBC's "The First World War" are best films/series on WWI

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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I think its fair to ask a war movie to not be over-the-top in its portrayal of the German Army of WW1 as proto-Nazi's.


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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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when was the last time Germans were the good guy in a war?

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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Why did they keep diverting from their mission?

1) No need to jump down into the empty German trenches
2) No need to drag a German out of his burning plane.
3)No need to confront 2 Germans in a bombed out city

Do. Your. Job.

But I did like how the movie was shot. A little cinematography trick that worked out, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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good dolphin wrote:
when was the last time Germans were the good guy in a war?

Well in the first world war they certainly weren't the bag guys.


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If Germany hadn't been invaded, occupied and parceled so many time in the century preceding the 20th maybe they would not have felt the need to build up a powerful.

And let's face it the majority of "Nazis" weren't evil either. They were people who happened to be living in Germany at the time. And they had about as much say in their leaders actions as posters here have in ending the Obama-Trump drone war.

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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I get it. The Germans have just been misunderstood for the past few centuries

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Russian Empire did infinitely more than the Prussians to hold down and suffocate Poland historically.


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And let's face it the majority of "Nazis" weren't evil either. They were people who happened to be living in Germany at the time. And they had about as much say in their leaders actions as posters here have in ending the Obama-Trump drone war.

The nazi's were good boys. They didnt do nuthin' to nobody!

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
And let's face it the majority of "Nazis" weren't evil either. They were people who happened to be living in Germany at the time. And they had about as much say in their leaders actions as posters here have in ending the Obama-Trump drone war.

The nazi's were good boys. They didnt do nuthin' to nobody!


:lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 1917
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Antarctica wrote:
Russian Empire did infinitely more than the Prussians to hold down and suffocate Poland historically.


You are talking Packers v. Cubs to me.

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What percentage of Poland's population and GDP is centered in Silesia and Pommern? You may not like Prussia but its lands have certainly proved good enough for Poland.


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What percentage of Poland's population and GDP is centered in Silesia and Pommern? You may not like Prussia but its lands have certainly proved good enough for Poland.


IT'S lands.

That's an interesting take.

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It was Poland's "allies" in London, Paris and Washington who let the Polish heartland get parceled out to Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine. Germany didn't have a voice at the peace conferences that gutted and bastardized the Polish nation.


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Antarctica wrote:
It was Poland's "allies" in London, Paris and Washington who let the Polish heartland get parceled out to Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine. Germany didn't have a voice at the peace conferences that gutted and bastardized the Polish nation.


well, at least you acknowledge that the land was historically polish and arbitrarily divided for a period of time.

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