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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:48 pm 
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It's not unreasonable to suggest the Redskins will win 5 games next year.
I agree that Riverboat Ron will eventually get things turned around in Washington. However, you have insinuated that the Redskins may be better than the Packers next year.

The Packers are clearly going to regress, but I will take the over on them winning 5 games in 2020.

They should've been swept by the Lions if not for officiating so bad you would not be crazy for thinking those games were fixed. I could see the Redskins winning seven games and the Packers winning six, easily. The Packers have no elite players at any position.


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Antarctica has been on a roll since yesterday's loss. I'm wondering if he still thinks Tarik Cohen is better than Aaron Jones

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Name the elite players on the Packers. Maybe Adams and Bakhtiari.


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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Fun season, sucks that we have lost 3 of the last 6 NFC Championship games, but looking forward to seeing them get back after next year.

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I could see the Redskins winning seven games and the Packers winning six, easily.
Barring a Rodgers injury, the Packers are going to win at least 7 or 8 games next season. As bad as the Bears were this year, they still managed to go 8-8. Remember, they get the play the Lions twice and will likely go 2-2 at worst against the Bears and Vikings. Even if the officials man up and call a game fairly, the Lions aren't going to beat the Pack twice.

The NFC East is still a dumpster fire, but the Redskins have to play NFC West and AFC North in 2020. They lost 13 games in 2019. They aren't going 7-9 next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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I could see the Redskins winning seven games and the Packers winning six, easily.
Barring a Rodgers injury, the Packers are going to win at least 7 or 8 games next season. As bad as the Bears were this year, they still managed to go 8-8. Remember, they get the play the Lions twice and will likely go 2-2 at worst against the Bears and Vikings. Even if the officials man up and call a game fairly, the Lions aren't going to beat the Pack twice.

The NFC East is still a dumpster fire, but the Redskins have to play NFC West and AFC North in 2020. They lost 13 games in 2019. They aren't going 7-9 next year.

They also get the Panthers and Lions on their last place schedule. I also would not be so intimidated by the AFC North, Baltimore had a fluke year too and got exposed.

Long way til the season. The Redskins are not a predictable franchise, if they bring in a capable backup quarterback they could be a very dark horse playoff threat.


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I'm happy the Packers were force fed a giant shit burger yesterday. Ecstatic even.

I'm not meatball enough to say the Redskins will be better than them in 2020.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Fun season, sucks that we have lost 3 of the last 6 NFC Championship games, but looking forward to seeing them get back after next year.



Good luck with that 1st place schedule.

They have 2019 Bears written all over them.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Fun season, sucks that we have lost 3 of the last 6 NFC Championship games, but looking forward to seeing them get back after next year.
Good luck with that 1st place schedule.

They have 2019 Bears written all over them.
Indeed.

Michael Lombardi was on with Screamy and Haugh this AM, and while he didn't rip the Packers, he certainly did not paint a sunny scene for the upcoming seasons in Green Bay.

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mike lombardi is just awful

Yeah he's a dipshit.

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2021 Super Bowl appearance confirmed

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Yeah, "tempo" will help the defense from being a "sieve"
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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Then they better go 8-0 at home, because they could very well go 2-6 on the road.

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HOME GAMES: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Philadelphia Eagles.

AWAY GAMES: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, San Francisco 49ers.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Then they better go 8-0 at home, because they could very well go 2-6 on the road.

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HOME GAMES: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Philadelphia Eagles.

AWAY GAMES: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, San Francisco 49ers.

2-6 on the road? The first three away games are all easy W's

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:lol: Hardly. The Lions, sure. They will go 1-1 between the games @Minne & Chicago.

The only other road win there is @Tampa.

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Yeah, "tempo" will help the defense from being a "sieve"
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Sounds like we're gonna bring in Wade Phillips to fix the D. That'll work

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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:lol: Hardly. The Lions, sure. They will go 1-1 between the games @Minne & Chicago.

The only other road win there is @Tampa.

Not worried about the Texans or Colts either. They'll lose the 49ers game but the other 7 are winnable.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Goddamnit. This is almost as bad as the Trevathan contract.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Goddamnit. This is almost as bad as the Trevathan contract.
It's a good signing if he stays healthy (yes that's Trevathan too). Everything I read says he's a good player and not too expensive. Now they can focus on fixing other holes. I'm fine with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Here's Tex Western's thoughts from last week.

While there is not yet confirmation that the Packers are on his itinerary, it would make perfect sense for the Packers to bring him in for a visit. The team’s need is clear, with the Packers reportedly showing interest in every major player at the position on the unrestricted free agent market. In addition, Kirksey would provide a steady veteran presence in addition to some playmaking ability. He also would bring speed to the middle of the field, having reportedly run the 40-yard dash in 4.58 seconds at Iowa’s 2014 Pro Day.
Adept as a blitzer, Kirksey posted 11.5 sacks in his first four seasons, first as a part-time starter and then two years as a full starter. That alone should have him on the Packers’ radar, particularly given defensive coordinator Mike Pettine’s heavy use of Martinez as an A-gap blitzer. He also showed some solid pass coverage ability, particularly in 2018 when he intercepted two passes and broke up three more.

In addition, a major connection between Kirksey and the Packers is Pettine himself. Kirksey’s first two years in the NFL came with Pettine as the Browns’ head coach. Clearly, Pettine would have been involved in Kirksey’s selection in the draft, not to mention coaching him along with the rest of the Browns’ defense in 2014 and 2015. During those two seasons, Kirksey’s playing time varied between 50-60% of defensive snaps, as he started 13 games and played all 32. In that time he totaled 5.5 sacks, a pair of forced fumbles, and a total of 144 tackles.

The question around Kirksey is price. Given his injury history, however, a relatively low-risk, two-year deal heavy on incentives and per-game active roster bonuses would make sense. But if he stays healthy, he could be every bit the equal of players closer to the top of the market for a fraction of the price.

For a team like the Packers, who have only a modest amount of salary cap space this season, gambling on a lower-priced veteran and finding a rookie on day two of the NFL Draft could be the ideal approach to addressing the position in 2020.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Goddamnit. This is almost as bad as the Trevathan contract.

The two-year deal for new Green Bay Packers linebacker Christian Kirksey is worth $13 million in base pay with only $4 million guaranteed, according to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle.

The deal includes $3.75 million in total roster and per-game bonuses and another $3.5 million in incentives and escalators, including a $1.75 million Pro Bowl incentive in 2021.

Kirksey has a base salary of just $1.75 million in 2020 and $3 million in 2021. His $4 million signing bonus will be prorated over two years against the cap.

The Packers appear to have protected themselves with a big chunk of the deal’s total money committed to playing time bonuses and incentives, forcing Kirksey – who played in only nine games the last two seasons – to be healthy and available to earn the full total.

Kirksey will have a cap hit of just $4.25 million in 2020. Judging by the numbers, the contract is essentially a one-year deal with a team option in 2021, allowing the Packers to get out if Kirksey underperforms or is injured again. Kirksey has a $1.5 million roster bonus due in 2021, but the Packers would save $6 million of the $8 million in cap charges by releasing him before paying the bonus.


https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/0 ... n-kirksey/

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How much is guaranteed?

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UPDATE: This deal actually came in as a two-year, $13 million pact with just a $4 million signing bonus guaranteed at the time of signing; I like it more for the Packers under those circumstances and have adjusted the grade.

$4M GTD is ok. Hopefully another FA vet and draft are in the plans for LB.

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The expected base value of new Packers starting RT Ricky Wagner’s deal is $11M over two years, with $3.5M fully guaranteed via a signing bonus. He can earn additional money through escalators and incentives.

Fair enough emergency plan for tackle.

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shore up the roster? Those two chumps are your starters.

You got worse at both positions for next year.

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The full game is available on youtube. A great way to spend an afternoon while stuck at home :alien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFG1LjIyTmU

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The full game is available on youtube. A great way to spend an afternoon while stuck at home :alien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFG1LjIyTmU



how is it I have no recollection of this game?

What a great game.

Who ended up winning the Super Bowl that year?

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How much is guaranteed?

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UPDATE: This deal actually came in as a two-year, $13 million pact with just a $4 million signing bonus guaranteed at the time of signing; I like it more for the Packers under those circumstances and have adjusted the grade.

$4M GTD is ok. Hopefully another FA vet and draft are in the plans for LB.

IDK man. $1M guaranteed per game played is still kinda hefty.

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