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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:55 am 
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So what? Are they supposed to cater it to each individual family's specific need? This is essentially emergency rations. If you don't need it, don't take it.

You seem to have the same approach as those who are anti food stamps because a tiny few game the system.


Assisted programs are necessary but "gaming the system" is a big deal and should be stopped. Yes, imo they should be addressing needs. We aren't at emergency levels and they are the ones creating the "emergency. It's fucked up. You said in another thread chill for 2-3 weeks...I don't feel that way and some people can't.


What do you think the school is doing with the food it already has and can't serve because classes are cancelled?

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There's no feasible way to fully eliminate cheaters.

For MANY, this absolutely is emergency level. Most people are living paycheck to paycheck. We had that discussion about prepping for 14-30 days. Most people didn't.

A huge portion of the population didnt take this seriously enough. I'm sure it happened very similarly in 1918-19. Your daily life isn't affected by this until it is...and then it's too late.


Cheating is only appalling when it's done by corporations (to you) and governmental waste is only bad or should be tolerated...on what conditions? Just keep accepting their crap? You seem to have more than most. It's real easy for you to say waste is no big deal, chill 2-3 weeks is no big deal, the government (who created this mess and has made things worse) can continue to make bad decisions for everybody because you know mostly you'll be fine. This makes me more fearful of the government, their control, and their overreach because it's obvious the A) don't know what they are doing or they are doing this purposefully B) provide some of the shittest "help" ever and c) do not give a shit about rights. Your POV is they are helping isn't that nice? My POV is they are fucking us over, giving pittance shitty stuff, and telling us we should be thankful for it. They'll be asking for more after all this is said and done. It will be for our benefit, our safety, our community. I don't have much left to give and I'm certainly not benefitting from it. I don't think most people are.


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Spaulding, what is the solution? Is it making people bring their W-2 in to receive food?

People gaming the system sucks, be it big billionaires or well-to-do kids getting free lunches.

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My point hasn't been gaming the system or who is "worthy or eligible".

Why are they offering 11000 people lunch, which is 90% more than usual, in a time of non crisis? There is food available in DG and surrounding areas. Offer and give assistance to those that need it, not everybody. But hey yeah they'll take care of us. It will barely cost anything.


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My point hasn't been gaming the system or who is "worthy or eligible".

Why are they offering 11000 people lunch, which is 90% more than usual, in a time of non crisis? There is food available in DG and surrounding areas. Offer and give assistance to those that need it, not everybody. But hey yeah they'll take care of us. It will barely cost anything.


For like the hundredth time. What do you think DG is doing with the food they already have but can't serve because classes are cancelled?

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Spaulding wrote:
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There's no feasible way to fully eliminate cheaters.

For MANY, this absolutely is emergency level. Most people are living paycheck to paycheck. We had that discussion about prepping for 14-30 days. Most people didn't.

A huge portion of the population didnt take this seriously enough. I'm sure it happened very similarly in 1918-19. Your daily life isn't affected by this until it is...and then it's too late.


Cheating is only appalling when it's done by corporations (to you) and governmental waste is only bad or should be tolerated...on what conditions? Just keep accepting their crap? You seem to have more than most. It's real easy for you to say waste is no big deal, chill 2-3 weeks is no big deal, the government (who created this mess and has made things worse) can continue to make bad decisions for everybody because you know mostly you'll be fine. This makes me more fearful of the government, their control, and their overreach because it's obvious the A) don't know what they are doing or they are doing this purposefully B) provide some of the shittest "help" ever and c) do not give a shit about rights. Your POV is they are helping isn't that nice? My POV is they are fucking us over, giving pittance shitty stuff, and telling us we should be thankful for it. They'll be asking for more after all this is said and done. It will be for our benefit, our safety, our community. I don't have much left to give and I'm certainly not benefitting from it. I don't think most people are.


What does your preconceived notion of my finances have to do with reality?

The fact of the matter is there is no way to fully eliminate people gaming the system...from top to bottom. You limit as much as you can and go with it. Same for the southern boarder. That's why they have actuaries.

The govt created this mess as a way to take our freedoms down the line?

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So are we talking about means-testing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches here?

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So are we talking about means-testing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches here?


The poors must be humbled. They've been living high on the hog for FAR too long!

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What does your preconceived notion of my finances have to do with reality?

The fact of the matter is there is no way to fully eliminate people gaming the system...from top to bottom. You limit as much as you can and go with it. Same for the southern boarder. That's why they have actuaries.

The govt created this mess as a way to take our freedoms down the line?


I think they've done quite a bit already and they will take away more down the line, for sure.


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So are we talking about means-testing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches here?


Peanut butter? Now who's crazy?


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Spaulding wrote:
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So are we talking about means-testing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches here?


Peanut butter? Now who's crazy?


What do you think DG is doing with the food they were going to serve but can't because classes are cancelled?

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Spaulding wrote:
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So are we talking about means-testing peanut butter and jelly sandwiches here?


Peanut butter? Now who's crazy?

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Sam, how come you didn't do "meal and a safe space, I know, I know, it's serious" yet?

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Sam, how come you didn't do "meal and a safe space, I know, I know, it's serious" yet?


If you only knew how many of those I sat on. Gotta pick your spots.

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When my great great great great grandfather Pierce Downer founded Downers Grove in 1832, he did it with some guiding principles. He wanted his town to be a smorgasbord of people who needed free school lunches for their kids, people who didn't need free lunches for their kids but took them anyway, people who would complain about everything, and idiots that would elect Ron Sandack. When I walk up the driveway of some poor local yokel's house to visit our family grave site located their back yard, instead of pouring a 40 out for him, I'm just going to leave an Uncrustable and a milk that's a day from it's expiration date.


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I guess we'll never find out what Spaulding thinks DG schools will do with the food they were going to serve but can't because classes are cancelled.

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I guess we'll never find out what Spaulding thinks DG schools will do with the food they were going to serve but can't because classes are cancelled.

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What are they doing with all the unused TP?


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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

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7 kids and one 18.5 year old drop out. All were within easy walking distance. Others felt compelled to stay at home for fear someone would be checking license plates or bicycle VINs. They'd be outed for being poor or stealing a couple bucks from a food line.


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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

Plainfield 202 has about 28,000 students, most of whom are probably on par with DG students on the socio-economic scale.

Exactly 276 meals were served today, the first day of the service.

The outrage in this thread is fucking BIZARRE. Most schools wasted way more tax dollars on all of the salt that they didn’t use in the parking lots and walkways during this mild winter.

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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

Plainfield 202 has about 28,000 students, most of whom are probably on par with DG students on the socio-economic scale.

Exactly 276 meals were served today, the first day of the service.

The outrage in this thread is fucking BIZARRE. Most schools wasted way more tax dollars on all of the salt that they didn’t use in the parking lots and walkways during this mild winter.


What if some kids have sticky shoes? Why should they get to walk on salted sidewalks?

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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

Plainfield 202 has about 28,000 students, most of whom are probably on par with DG students on the socio-economic scale.

Exactly 276 meals were served today, the first day of the service.

The outrage in this thread is fucking BIZARRE. Most schools wasted way more tax dollars on all of the salt that they didn’t use in the parking lots and walkways during this mild winter.

Well the salt should keep longer than the lunches.

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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

Plainfield 202 has about 28,000 students, most of whom are probably on par with DG students on the socio-economic scale.

Exactly 276 meals were served today, the first day of the service.

The outrage in this thread is fucking BIZARRE. Most schools wasted way more tax dollars on all of the salt that they didn’t use in the parking lots and walkways during this mild winter.

Well the salt should keep longer than the lunches.

Yeah, it was just one example. I don't get the anger over providing sack meals to kids that live within a school's boundaries. I'm pro "letting kids eat twice per day".

All districts bid out to companies each year for the plowing/salting. There's been an AMAZING amount of salt going down the last few weeks anytime the temps could possibly drop below 32 with a hint of precipitation.....they gotta burn through it this year in order to charge for it next year.

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It starts with the salting of the roads...then the free lunches...next thing you know...SOCIALISM

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spanky wrote:
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spanky wrote:
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So how many showed up for the free breakfast today?

Plainfield 202 has about 28,000 students, most of whom are probably on par with DG students on the socio-economic scale.

Exactly 276 meals were served today, the first day of the service.

The outrage in this thread is fucking BIZARRE. Most schools wasted way more tax dollars on all of the salt that they didn’t use in the parking lots and walkways during this mild winter.

Well the salt should keep longer than the lunches.

Yeah, it was just one example. I don't get the anger over providing sack meals to kids that live within a school's boundaries. I'm pro "letting kids eat twice per day".

All districts bid out to companies each year for the plowing/salting. There's been an AMAZING amount of salt going down the last few weeks anytime the temps could possibly drop below 32 with a hint of precipitation.....they gotta burn through it this year in order to charge for it next year.

They bid out for plowing and salting?
Man, custodians got it good. Except for cleaning up barf every day.
That sucks.

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They bid out for plowing and salting?
Man, custodians got it good. Except for cleaning up barf every day.
That sucks.

Well, yeah, for districts that don't own their own plows/trucks. Similar to how districts that don't own their own buses contract out to a bus company.

It'd be tough to shovel out entire lots and driveways of multiple schools.
Especially if you have to lay down a 1" layer of salt with no snow in sight. :D

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They bid out for plowing and salting?
Man, custodians got it good. Except for cleaning up barf every day.
That sucks.

Well, yeah, for districts that don't own their own plows/trucks. Similar to how districts that don't own their own busses contract out to a bus company.

It'd be tough to shovel out entire lots and driveways of multiple schools.
Especially if you have to lay down a 1" layer of salt with no snow in sight. :D

My buddy's dad was a custodian at Fremd, and they just had a pickup with a plow on it for the lots and they did the stairs and walkways by hand.

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My buddy's dad was a custodian at Fremd, and they just had a pickup with a plow on it for the lots and they did the stairs and walkways by hand.

Yeah, the walks/steps/entrys are probably on school staff at most places.


Was your buddy's dad in favor of kids eating when they couldn't go to school, even though they planned on eating at school during that time?

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My buddy's dad was a custodian at Fremd, and they just had a pickup with a plow on it for the lots and they did the stairs and walkways by hand.

Yeah, the walks/steps/entrys are probably on school staff at most places.


Was your buddy's dad in favor of kids eating when they couldn't go to school, even though they planned on eating at school during that time?

I dont know. He seemed to be more worried about drinking old style more than anything else iirc.

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