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Spanky with a great thread here. 100 percent right.

I'll add that mortality rate isn't the most important thing. Hospitalization rate is what matters because mortality rates for all emergencies go way up if hospitals are overwhelmed.

I hope the holdouts are right. In two weeks the hospitals are able to handle things and life goes back to somewhat normal.


It actually is. It's what's fueling the fear and panic. No one really cares if a lot of people aren't dying. Last night told me everything that I needed to know about the media and our leaders fanning fear. They're no longer even mentioning the death totals. They're focus on the number of confirmed cases. Why? That number is significantly bigger.

The death tolls end up taking a few weeks to match the current cases total.

Let me put it another way.

A 1% mortality rate when you can treat every patient goes up significantly if you can't treat every patient, and you also get the add on cases in a stressed medical system of people who would have otherwise survived heart attacks and strokes and car accidents but didn't because they can't be treated effectively either because people are sitting in tents for days waiting to get in.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spanky with a great thread here. 100 percent right.

I'll add that mortality rate isn't the most important thing. Hospitalization rate is what matters because mortality rates for all emergencies go way up if hospitals are overwhelmed.

I hope the holdouts are right. In two weeks the hospitals are able to handle things and life goes back to somewhat normal.


It actually is. It's what's fueling the fear and panic. No one really cares if a lot of people aren't dying. Last night told me everything that I needed to know about the media and our leaders fanning fear. They're no longer even mentioning the death totals. They're focus on the number of confirmed cases. Why? That number is significantly bigger.

The death tolls end up taking a few weeks to match the current cases total.

Let me put it another way.

A 1% mortality rate when you can treat every patient goes up significantly if you can't treat every patient, and you also get the add on cases in a stressed medical system of people who would have otherwise survived heart attacks and strokes and car accidents but didn't because they can't be treated effectively either because people are sitting in tents for days waiting to get in.


BRick if EVERYONE isn't pissing themselves out of fear, our medical system will be fine. Every athlete, celebrity and politician has been checked. Why? Fear. Many other Americans want to be checked for the same reason. They've gone on Twitter, watched the news and they're all afraid of dying. The governor of NY said fear and panic were worse than the virus and he was absolutely right.

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BRick if EVERYONE isn't pissing themselves out of fear, our medical system will be fine. Every athlete, celebrity and politician has been checked. Why? Fear. Many other Americans want to be checked for the same reason. They've gone on Twitter, watched the news and they're all afraid of dying.

Healthy at their physical peak athletes with no symptoms are being tested. Great allocation of resources!

We're tanking the economy to waste tests on healthy people.


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We're tanking the economy to waste tests on healthy people.

Change your h to a w and I fully agree.

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BRick if EVERYONE isn't pissing themselves out of fear, our medical system will be fine. Every athlete, celebrity and politician has been checked. Why? Fear. Many other Americans want to be checked for the same reason. They've gone on Twitter, watched the news and they're all afraid of dying. The governor of NY said fear and panic were worse than the virus and he was absolutely right.
Fear doesn't put you in the hospital. This virus has a very high hospitalization rate in other countries. We do have singificantly more capacity per person here but it could happen similarly here.

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BRick if EVERYONE isn't pissing themselves out of fear, our medical system will be fine. Every athlete, celebrity and politician has been checked. Why? Fear. Many other Americans want to be checked for the same reason. They've gone on Twitter, watched the news and they're all afraid of dying.

Healthy at their physical peak athletes with no symptoms are being tested. Great allocation of resources!

We're tanking the economy to waste tests on healthy people.


no one can defend this failure on testing.... it's shameful. fat orange man is to blame whether he accepts that or not....

but you need to test anyone who may have it because if they have it they are spreading it without isolating themselves


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Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

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Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

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but you need to test anyone who may have it because if they have it they are spreading it without isolating themselves


On the other hand, is there the possibility that we want people who have had it, recovered and developed antibodies to it, to circulate and spread the antibodies? When people talk about "carriers" for the flu and other viruses, does the carry part apply only to the bad stuff, or do we spread the good stuff too?

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Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.

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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise the CURVE will kill everyone!!!!


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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise someday the mountain might get 'em but the law never will!!!!


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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise someday the mountain might get 'em but the law never will!!!!


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Douchebag wrote:
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Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.

Douchebag, if you run for office, you can make this your slogan--just re-arrange the letters a bit, perhaps to SUCHH.

Or, if you run for Poster of the Year, your running mate could be CHHUS. Maybe it would bring Chus back?


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tommy wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise someday the mountain might get 'em but the law never will!!!!


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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise someday the mountain might get 'em but the law never will!!!!


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:D :D :D

We definitely need more of those curves

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At this point the damage done to the economy is so profound and a such a matter of bipartisan cooperation that we may as well eradicate the disease out of principle or the millions homeless and thousands dead from the imminent depression will be for nothing. I cannot believe these governors did what they did. It transcends recklessness to the point where it almost feels intentional.


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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise the CURVE will kill everyone!!!!


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tommy wrote:
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You just don't get it Douchebag. We must FLATTEN THE CURVE!!! Otherwise someday the mountain might get 'em but the law never will!!!!


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Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.


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No one here doesn't believe that this is likely very serious. The "holdouts" just haven't seen anything for the data that tells us that crashing the economy and shutting down the entire country is reasonable.

THIS.

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Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.


stick to one liners as providing actual content is not your strength.


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billypootons wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.


stick to one liners as providing actual content is not your strength.

7 million people died because of the great depression. This is where we are headed.

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Douchebag wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.


stick to one liners as providing actual content is not your strength.

7 million people died because of the great depression. This is where we are headed.


go back 2 weeks, what was your proposed plan? would you have saved the markets by ignoring it? and is it too late to implement your plan?


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Douchebag wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.


stick to one liners as providing actual content is not your strength.

7 million people died because of the great depression. This is where we are headed.


With a population a quarter as much as today.

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billypootons wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Not surprising that Spanky is a dumbass.

More people are going to die because of our reaction to this virus. This great depression will take years to recover from. Thanks for that. When my family is homeless and starving to death I can thank retards like Spanky and billypootons for not killing an extra 1000 people with the coronavirus.

I don't think this will prove to be true. A pandemic is going to hurt the economy regardless but things will bounce back relatively quickly if this is a short term issue and if it's a long term issue requiring months of quarantining then things were going to be terrible anyways. Most of the major impacts so far have been to travel industries anyways. A global pandemic is going to get a lot of people hoping on planes.

I would be willing to bet everything I said is true.

More people will die due to our reaction to the virus than the actual virus itself.

This is going to make the 2008 crash seem like a fairytale.

Homelessness
Suicide
Crime
Hunger
Unemployment

All of these will go through the roof. But we let billypootons Grandma live an extra 6 months, so its okay.


stick to one liners as providing actual content is not your strength.


yea, your snarky one line dismissals to every other post are really moving the meters


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go back 2 weeks, what was your proposed plan? would you have saved the markets by ignoring it? and is it too late to implement your plan?

Literally doing nothing would have been a better solution. The market would have still dropped, but this is going to dismantle our economy for a decade and cause more deaths than the actual virus.

But the guy who lost everything and throws himself off a bridge will be proclaiming "At least the Coronavirus didn't get me". We can all be thankful for that.

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