Apparently you do. Just sit back and enjoy it aye?

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So in fewer than 2 months, Trump should have prepared 300 million tests. Should he have issued a presidential order to manufacture them? How long does it take to build 300 million tests in your experience?

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No I am glad to admit I don't have all the answers. You should try it sometime

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Honestly we are past the point of realistically testing everyone. We need to triage the vulnerable and the rest ride this out and come out of it with great vaccine their body made.

Ok, let's try an easy one.
LTG, when should the first tests have been ordered by the president? Which date... no need to be exact just like around when?

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But you do have all the answers. Making excuses for Trump no matter what helps constitute this.

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In January when the WHO first made the U.S. aware of them. Did you know that the U.S. could have simply gone with the WHO manufactured tests in January but the CDC decided to manufacture their own? There was a defect in their tests which caused a delay in testing?

Hope I made it "easy" for you.

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It's not about testing everyone. We should never have deficiency where people that want to get tested cannot. That's a problem.

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The tests could not be created without access to the virus samples. China did not allow samples out. Manufacturers did not have access to samples until late january. Once they had the samples, they could build the RNA tests. Then they had to be confirmed to be working properly. They dont always work properly.

Was that easy enough? There weren't tests until the samples were available. China didnt share or play nice.

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No again I don't have all the answers. I have said on here several times that Trump has not handled all of this well. But to expect that he was going to put people in quarantine and such 2 months ago is just not even realistic.

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So now we know that the materials needed to actually build viable tests wasn't available until late January. Fewer than 60 days ago. How prepared could a country be?

Now, I'm not saying things shouldnt have moved faster at that point. They should have. Leadership did not coordinate well. That's a fact. But what is fiction is how we should have somehow been more prepared for a virus that was unidentified in the US until late January and we didnt have the RNA until then. The issue was not preparation. If you want to talk about lack of coordination after the rna was identified, then you have a case.

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Rfdc and ds are correct. Trump should have/could have listened to his team more (how often is that said) but no one can prepare with 100 percent effectiveness for an outbreak like this.

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Lack of coordination is related to preparation though. The same way that are scrambling now could have occurred 2 months ago. Competent leaders get ahead of it. He didn't and people that were really really close to him have admitted as much.

Experimental drugs could have been tested also. They were not. He dropped the ball.

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Imagine having TDS as bad as these people do.

Yes but you can prepare in a way that doesn't shut down entire cities. I know people (mostly Right Wing types on here) are quick to rail against Govs and Mayors that have locked the city /state down, but what were they supposed to do?

You have a,disease with no cure in sight with a bunch of people walking around who may or may not have it.
Until last week no one actually thought this was all that serious. You know why? Because we had a President that repeatedly downplayed it.

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Why weren't the Governors ahead of it as you say leaders should be?

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Sure that is why there has been a,week of bashing Dem Gov and Mayors that are actually trying to do something about it.
Talk about Derangement

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Two consecutive sentences that seem to advocate competing ideas. In the eyes of the TDS afflicted there is nothing Trump can do that they will support. Had Trump locked down the country the instant it began in China he would've been accused of racism and xenophobia. Actually, if you look back when the USA was the first country to ban travelers from China he was accused of exactly that.

Because they were waiting on the President to take the lead. As it should be. This is a Federal issue.

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Ok. Goalposts moved. You really feel the need to blame someone for this. It's a very typical human response when faced with a situation over which you have no control. Call me the name now, it's fine. It doesn't change the fact that what I said is correct.

The scrambling now literally could not have been done two months ago. Two months ago, we literally had nothing we could experiment on or test. Samples didnt arrive in the us until on or about jan.23. At that time, the big news was very different. Wanna know what the entire US concern was that week? We have a history here. Go see what we were all talking about. On the 23rd, we had a thread about a virus that was in china. The majority of the non sports conversation in politics was... well we know what it was.

The point is that fewer than 60 days ago, the president had his first briefing on the topic. I can agree that most of the response has been botched from there.

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Nothing that I have posted pertains to travel ban though I wasn't opposed to that.
Secondly the "there is nothing that TDS will support" is B.S since it's quite obvious that there is nothing that Trump sycophants won't defend.

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Dont "I know you are but what am I" me LTG. I know your little game.

There was nothing he could've done that would've satisfied you. Nothing. If the disease didn't hit the USA (and relative to many other countries it really hasn't) you would've said he overreacted, but since like one-hundred and fifty people out of three-hundred and thirty million have died you instead act like he did nothing. Its ridiculous, get a hold of yourself.

Trump hasn't shut down one single city. That is all the work of governors and mayors.

Trump said that there was nothing to worry about in February. He said he had it under control. That has been proven to be false and quite possibly a lie.

You can continue to defend the guy if you want, even as you really really want people to believe that you don't care for him (got a bridge to sell in San Francisco for anyone that believes that) but I'm not.

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You are a Trump sycophant like a lot of people that post here.
1. Provide more testing kits.
2. Test experimental drugs.
3. Provide a contingency plan for whenever this thing struck.

Those are 3 things that could have been done. I know you are quite satisfied with the travel ban as it quenches that xenophobic itch that you have but there was more that could have been done.

If he does that and it still strikes then at least he tried. To do nothing and act only once a,talk show host informs you is simply bad.

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Can't say anything other than. "h-h-hes xenophobic!"

The absolute state of liberals in 2020.

Again, I agree. The leadership has been lacking between late jan, early feb until some time this week. What I strongly disagree with you and many others on is the claim of lack of preparation. We were unprepared. We were unprepared because it could not have been prepared for.

The situation is out of our control. This is making people angry. It's normal.

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Trump would rather talk about the vaping epidemic than the Coronavirus in January. Now here is guy really on top of things.


Within the administration, Trump's aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus's seriousness, according to the Post. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was unable to discuss the virus with Trump until January 18, two senior administration officials told the Post -- at which point the President interrupted him to ask when sales of flavored vaping products would resume, senior administration officials told the paper.

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1. Test kits could not have been provided for until we had the virus samples. These were not available until late January. Then they had to be developed. Then they had to be tested to see if they worked. Then they could go into production. Then... if resources were available (and they're still not available enough, the raw materials) they could be mass produced. This was not a failure of prep.

2. Experimental drug testing? Well first of all that's not exactly ethical really, but once families of drugs were tried, others were used experimentally. Again Trump doesn't just sit at his desk and sign an order that says "test experimental drugs". You have to do research. You have to have the virus samples.

3. I agree finally. An emergency plan. We have 400 or so nuclear war scenarios that some egghead in the Pentagon drew up. No one sat and came up with a fast moving virus plan? How to contain city by city state by state or county by county? We all saw that movie.

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. Yeah I dont get that either. Is he a Vaper? That's fucking bizarre.

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Vaping will kill more Americans this month than the rone.