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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:23 am 
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Nauseating piece from the NYT defending the PRC's behaviour during this thing and attacking Trump. American media willingly turning into propaganda arms of the Chinese government is a new low.


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Media is saying country is unified to keep the country safe.

Is it opposite day?


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So New York and soon Chicago will have built hospitals in less than a week. Is the media going to be in awe of it the way they were they did for the PRC? Despicable that our media broadcasts their propaganda so willingly. A regime not unlike other villains of history, its going to be the defining mark of the last tens years. Their complicity in the rise of communist China and their increasingly anti-humanity stance.


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So New York and soon Chicago will have built hospitals in less than a week. Is the media going to be in awe of it the way they were they did for the PRC? Despicable that our media broadcasts their propaganda so willingly. A regime not unlike other villains of history, its going to be the defining mark of the last tens years. Their complicity in the rise of communist China and their increasingly anti-humanity stance.


Built without forced labor none the less.


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These same people are so assured that they are on the "right side of history" when, in reality, their fate has been sealed. They will go down as Neville Chamberlain has.


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Don Tiny wrote:
I'm sure they'll take care of China right after they take care of Saudi Arabia.

Dopes.



Exactly

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So New York and soon Chicago will have built hospitals in less than a week. Is the media going to be in awe of it the way they were they did for the PRC? Despicable that our media broadcasts their propaganda so willingly. A regime not unlike other villains of history, its going to be the defining mark of the last tens years. Their complicity in the rise of communist China and their increasingly anti-humanity stance.


Built without forced labor none the less.

And built by the feds who have no responsibility to do so. Now it's up to Governor Flinstone to get the personnel to man it. Will he do it or just point fingers as usual?


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Don Tiny wrote:
I'm sure they'll take care of China right after they take care of Saudi Arabia.

Dopes.



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No.

China makes Saudi Arabia look like a f@ckin pre-school when it comes to the evil they are willing to push.

If this pandemic doesn't convince you of that, then really isn't anything that ever will.

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312player wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
I'm sure they'll take care of China right after they take care of Saudi Arabia.

Dopes.



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No.

China makes Saudi Arabia look like a f@ckin pre-school when it comes to the evil they are willing to push.

If this pandemic doesn't convince you of that, then really isn't anything that ever will.

Correct. There isn't anything that ever will. We've had 2 decades of China ass raping us and what we heard was "Russia". A 2nd world paper tiger. Economy the size of South Korea's but less diverse.


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Seacrest wrote:
312player wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
I'm sure they'll take care of China right after they take care of Saudi Arabia.

Dopes.



Exactly


No.

China makes Saudi Arabia look like a f@ckin pre-school when it comes to the evil they are willing to push.

If this pandemic doesn't convince you of that, then really isn't anything that ever will.


It wasn't a judgement call. They may or may not be worse. Irrelevant to my statement.

It was a statement of fact.

The USA will 'take care' of China right after they get done 'taking care' of Saudi Arabia.

Which is essentially never.

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Seacrest wrote:
312player wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
I'm sure they'll take care of China right after they take care of Saudi Arabia.

Dopes.



Exactly


No.

China makes Saudi Arabia look like a f@ckin pre-school when it comes to the evil they are willing to push.

If this pandemic doesn't convince you of that, then really isn't anything that ever will.


Right but I think Don's point was that nobody is going to do anything about either Saudi Arabia or China.

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Correct.

You get a toffee.

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China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


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China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

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China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

Activity is more than we EVER had before. You need activity before you have accomplishment.


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The pressure being put on Huawei alone is definitely different than prior administrations.

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Nardi wrote:
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China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

Activity is more than we EVER had before. You need activity before you have accomplishment.


Short term it appears that we were "losing" and Xi has the ability to wait out any administration.

I'm not saying that the mostly lip service of other presidents were great. I'm simply saying that we generally only judge presidents on success.

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Nas wrote:
Nardi wrote:
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China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

Activity is more than we EVER had before. You need activity before you have accomplishment.


Short term it appears that we were "losing" and Xi has the ability to wait out any administration.

I'm not saying that the mostly lip service of other presidents were great. I'm simply saying that we generally only judge presidents on success.

Can't fuck with a limp dick. Which is what we have now. It's funny to me that so MANY want to fuck with a limp dick when 6 months ago they didn't want to with a iron rod.


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The elements of the American government that really want to go after China are not elected. They just found an incidental ally in the form of Trump's economic nationalism. Fear not the changing of administrations, well...as long as we dont get some f@ggot democrat in charge.


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Nardi wrote:
Nas wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Nas wrote:
Nardi wrote:
China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

Activity is more than we EVER had before. You need activity before you have accomplishment.


Short term it appears that we were "losing" and Xi has the ability to wait out any administration.

I'm not saying that the mostly lip service of other presidents were great. I'm simply saying that we generally only judge presidents on success.

Can't fuck with a limp dick. Which is what we have now. It's funny to me that so MANY want to fuck with a limp dick when 6 months ago they didn't want to with a iron rod.


China can be dealt with as long as our country is willing to make some real sacrifices.

This past week wasn't the best example, but there is still plenty of time.

Everyone now knows the end game. Which wasn't the case even a month ago.

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Nardi wrote:
Nas wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Nas wrote:
Nardi wrote:
China was being dealt with before Corona, or at least there was an attempt to, much to the consternation of democrats.


Activity isn't the same thing as accomplishment.

Activity is more than we EVER had before. You need activity before you have accomplishment.


Short term it appears that we were "losing" and Xi has the ability to wait out any administration.

I'm not saying that the mostly lip service of other presidents were great. I'm simply saying that we generally only judge presidents on success.

Can't fuck with a limp dick. Which is what we have now. It's funny to me that so MANY want to fuck with a limp dick when 6 months ago they didn't want to with a iron rod.


China can be dealt with as long as our country is willing to make some real sacrifices.

This past week wasn't the best example, but there is still plenty of time.

Everyone now knows the end game. Which wasn't the case even a month ago.

I don't think so. People are mad cuz they eat bats, not because they steal tech, manipulate currency, and cheat on trade deals. People knew all this 6 months ago.


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People who think this came from eating bats should be quarantined.

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People who think this came from eating bats should be quarantined.

Quarantine me. Whatever China's figures are, just add a zero. If the say 82,000, it means 820,000.


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People who think this came from eating bats should be quarantined.



Yeah, best case it was a mistake in a lab. But it could be more malicious than that. Especially if you're telling me, as so many in the Western media are, that China is suddenly back to work and has no new cases.

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I don't think so. People are mad cuz they eat bats, not because they steal tech, manipulate currency, and cheat on trade deals. People knew all this 6 months ago.

Those people dont speak for me.


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The pressure being put on Huawei alone is definitely different than prior administrations.


What's bad for Huawei has been great for Huawei's competition, Xiaomi delivering Android devices
with the identical hardware to $1,000+ Samsungs or Pixels for $425:

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Excellent, readily available Xiaomi device for $275:

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In addition to the Xiaomi and Redmi labels, Xiaomi also had the Poco line of devices. Somewhat up to date list of their offerings:

https://www.androidcentral.com/best-xiaomi-phones

Americans pay $1000 plus for phones that the rest of the planet gets equal or better devices for 1/3rd of the price.

Oppo's another good choice to avoid getting ripped off your next Android device. Shit all comes out of the same Chiner factories, different nameplate on em shouldn't cost an extra $800:

https://www.techradar.com/news/best-oppo-phones


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I don't think so. People are mad cuz they eat bats, not because they steal tech, manipulate currency, and cheat on trade deals. People knew all this 6 months ago.

Those people dont speak for me.

Just pointing out people are speaking NOW but not 6 months ago. And they aren't mad about what I've been mad about for 2 decades. But I'll tell you what. If they believe China's virus numbers(and that inevitably leads to a purposeful lab virus), that's fine by me because we can get to the same goal by different means.


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Maybe so Hussra, but the Huawei concerns are about network equipment not consumer cell phones.

I was at an insurance conference 18 months ago. One of the speakers was a former NSA agent, and his session was on cyber security. I straight up asked him if the rumors of Chinese technology companies selling stuff with spying capabilities was true. And he was emphatic in his yes. They are absolutely spying on us through network equipment.

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Doesn't matter why Huawei landed on the entity list, Huawei being on the entity list means US companies can't do business with em (absent a waiver). In the case of consumer Android devices, this translates to Huawei pimping Android phones sans any proprietary, licensed from Google things like the all-important Google Play store. Cripples Huawei devices for the average consumer, unless you're going to sideload everything. Although tinfoil hat types might view google's self/government-imposed ban on being installed on Huawei devices a selling-point.


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People who think this came from eating bats should be quarantined.



Yeah, best case it was a mistake in a lab. But it could be more malicious than that. Especially if you're telling me, as so many in the Western media are, that China is suddenly back to work and has no new cases.


While I can certainly see this as true, why do you two believe it?

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