Do you consider JORR naive and easily played? Because this has become the 2nd level of this insane debate. And I don't blame him for getting chippy.

Well done, Newper. I think you organized it.

and I guess you never will

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Yeah. I should really change it. It was a recent song by Willie Nelson on an album of his. If you listened to the song it was pretty poignant and I like it.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

FF demands a refund? Haven't seen that. And you are taking credit for it? Why?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

We all have blind spots. Why should he get chippy? I find it odd that Indifferent JORR is not only bothered by attacks on another poster but he continues to actively defend him. That's UNPRECEDENTED.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Yep. It was well done.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

You question Pelosi, Biden and the Pope.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I don’t owe you an apology for anything of yours that I HAVE deleted.

You have accused me of deleting your posts dozens of times when I have not.

I have thanked you here for your military service.

Like John McCain though, it doesn’t give you the right to treat people you dislike poorly.

And when you treat others poorly, don’t you dare pull the victim card when they question your military service to insult you.

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He doesn't have a "blind spot". He is a person with honor for cripes sake.

When all of those attacks came my way about my military service and FF especially attacked me and accused me of having lie about my being a combat veteran and having won a couple of medals including a Purple Heart and Bronze Star(s), he(FF) challenged me to a bet and I took it. The bet was $200.

I insisted that a 3rd party validate my military records, a display of a current picture of my uniform and other items that I produced. And not knowing a single person personally on this board let alone someone that I would trust with my money or some money owed me, I decided that the loser of the bet would make a donation to the Gary Sinese Foundation and asked JORR to review my documentation and make the call as to being legit or not. I asked JORR because in my estimation, he was a honest person and seemed honorable. FF agreed and JORR received the information that I sent and validated that what I said I had done, I had done. And Newper made the arrangement and some decent money went to the Gary Senise Foundation.

For the record, I thank JORR for what he did and having the honor to stand up in what was obviously not a popular action on many of your parts. I didn't ask him for any favors but appreciate what he did. So lay the hell off of him.

To this day, there have been half wits on this board who still attack me and my service and try to piss me off. They are ignorant assholes and Crest doesn't do SHIT to stop it and in the case of some of them have been protected by him. I have been mocked for my PTSD and my military disability by these same ignorant assholes

That is what happened and it shouldn't have happened. For all of Crest's Quixote-like protection of supposed racial oppressed people on this board, he hasn't done shit whatsoever to the personal attacks leveled at myself and a few others. In my opinion, his inability to moderate this board drives people off of it.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

He doesn't have a "blind spot". He is a person with honor for cripes sake.

When all of those attacks came my way about my military service and FF especially attacked me and accused me of having lie about my being a combat veteran and having won a couple of medals including a Purple Heart and Bronze Star(s), he(FF) challenged me to a bet and I took it. The bet was $200.

I insisted that a 3rd party validate my military records, a display of a current picture of my uniform and other items that I produced. And not knowing a single person personally on this board let alone someone that I would trust with my money or some money owed me, I decided that the loser of the bet would make a donation to the Gary Sinese Foundation and asked JORR to review my documentation and make the call as to being legit or not. I asked JORR because in my estimation, he was a honest person and seemed honorable. FF agreed and JORR received the information that I sent and validated that what I said I had done, I had done. And Newper made the arrangement and some decent money went to the Gary Senise Foundation.

For the record, I thank JORR for what he did and having the honor to stand up in what was obviously not a popular action on many of your parts. I didn't ask him for any favors but appreciate what he did. So lay the hell off of him.

To this day, there have been half wits on this board who still attack me and my service and try to piss me off. They are ignorant assholes and Crest doesn't do SHIT to stop it and in the case of some of them have been protected by him. I have been mocked for my PTSD and my military disability by these same ignorant assholes

That is what happened and it shouldn't have happened. For all of Crest's Quixote-like protection of supposed racial oppressed people on this board, he hasn't done shit whatsoever to the personal attacks leveled at myself and a few others. In my opinion, his inability to moderate this board drives people off of it.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I'm gonna go get the papers. Get the papers.

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It’s honorable when JORR stands up for the Hawk

When someone stands up to the Hawk, they are dishonorable.

Got it Hawk.

You talk tough, but you are everything you complain about others being.

Good night everybody

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IIRC, JORR was the middleman that everyone agreed could adjudicate this silly thing. So he adjudicated it and now he's being second leveled....as Hawk's dupe. That's why he's chippy. I like watching a alley fight as much as the next guy but dragging in the designated peacemaker and taking shots at him ain't cool.

No one has dragged JORR into anything. JORR has a decade pattern of being indifferent when it comes to board pissing matches that involve other people. JORR is doing something that is out of character for him and I'm curious why that is.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

You do owe me an apology but do not have the honor to admit it.. You also lied about the reasons why they were deleted but never showed the post and the reason for its deletion and then you basically destroyed the evidence as any corrupt prosecutor would do.

I have stated that my posts have been deleted which they were. You denied it was you and I said that someone did delete them after which you called me a liar. You have also MODIFIED my posts on occasion to make them appear different from what I actually posted. Other on this board have also done the same.

You half heartedly thanked me for my service after cheering on your pals who were mocking me service. People who were on the board then should know what you were all about then and now. YOu decided very early on that you didn't approve of my directness and willingness to take on arguments about racial matters in a not so "politically correct" manner and have made me a target. In fact, it was YOU who I believe called me a racist early on. Based on nothing factual, just your messed up view of what real racism is all about.

Don't know what the hell you are talking about in your John McCain reference. You've brought him up before. Why? You've also said that my being in the service didn't excuse my "disrespecting people or treating them poorly". Screw you, Crest. I have never claim my service as any excuse for anything I have ever said or done. That is just another of your lies about me. Who exactly have I treated "poorly" here? Are these people not full grown ADULTS? Who do you need to "protect" on this board? Who is such a pansy that you are afraid will be offended by my arguments? It is just your imagination at play.

Your last statement really illustrates your weak mentality. You condone personal attacks on me that I have proven to be untrue and are lies. And people also on this very board know that you do not speak truthfully on some matters. The fact that you never have ever brought any proof to the fore about what I have said directly to some of your protected people on this board that constitutes "treating people poorly" as you state it tells the whole story. People see, Crest. And they understand, Crest. Its all there on display.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

How could they prove it? Give me The Hawk's log-in. But no one can because he's a real guy. And I'm not "invested". I'm just telling you what I know.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm not chippy about this. LTG made a dumb statement. A lie actually. I don't know why some people are heavily invested in denying what anyone who can read knows.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I know what honor is and you do not have any. You're not "standing up to me". Anything but. You are lying about what you have done and what you have said about me. There is NO HONOR in that.

As for my talking tough, I talk honestly about what I think and have done in my life. Now again you question my courage as you have done in the past as if you know something about courage and whatever "toughness" is.

I've got two basic issues with you which you have never answered for. Why do you protect black folks on your board to a fault. And what PROOF do you happen to have to justify your calling me out as being a racist and a coward. Show it or shut the F up about me. I am again waiting for a deserved apology.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

You're telling me what you believe and that's fine. Based on your 10 year posting history you are clearly invested. This is close to the 10th time you've fervently defended Hawk. Defending posters has never been your thing.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

well so are you, arent you? I mean fuck, u made the drive all the way to Milwaukee for his rally.

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So wait - it wasn't the Gary Cherone Foundation?

Son of a...

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I don't remember half the time if I'm hiding or I'm lost

The Hawk is an honorable guy. I like him.

Actually, we should be thanking the fucker.

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Something tells me he doesn't want thanks.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I had to pick up some Trumpcaine.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Fuck me for finding that as funny as i did.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Rambo is just a character

Beach Bunny was awesome tonight

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Great American. Many here didn't serve their country like this patriot.