https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/202 ... by-august/

What’s funny?

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There is NO way we are going to be resuming 40,000 people at sporting events by August. Another statement that will be retracted like his previous "having everything open by Easter" comment.

You have no idea. And if we are not back to normal by August we are going to wish we never started this social experiment.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Even if 40k people aren't packing a stadium I would take it.

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By August it seems realistic that lots of things will be back to normal (restaurants, etc.) but not packing 80,000 people into an NFL stadium.

I think there are enough of us that would buy tickets at a discount to pack a stadium.

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Maybe. I guess I would have taken this more seriously if he hadn't recently said that everything would be open and business as usual by Easter.

Zach Lowe and Sport Guy Simmons had this exchange on Lowe's recent podcast:

"I don't think any sports will return to normal until there's a vaccine. Who wants to go sit in an arena with other people around?" -ZL

"I'm with you. There is no scenario where I'm going to hang out in a crowd. They can say 'No-no, don't worry, it's better! We've flattened the curve.' Well, great--do we have a vaccine yet? No? Okay, guess what I'm not doing: sitting in a section with a 100 other people." -BS

Nothing sports-related returns to normal until there's a widely available vaccine. Even in a best-case-scenario in terms of clinical trials, fast-track approvals and pre-building vaccine production facilities, that's not happening before Q1 2021; and the more likely timeline is 12 months+ from now.

Here's the problem. I doubt that August will be much different than Easter would be. At some point someone is going to have to make a tough call. And we're going to have to hope that The People go along with it. It can't just be that people are locked in their homes for an indefinite period. And we can't simply have an economic lockdown for months on end. The idea of a "non-essential" business is nonsense. If you feed your family by selling art, that's an essential business.

But I think we've already let the horse out of the barn. The whole thing has become politicized. Someone needs to be able to stand up and say, "If we could all just hide until the virus is gone and then come right back and start everything like normal, we would certainly do that. It's just not possible. What Dr. Fauci is suggesting may be the best medical advice. But it won't work. It's no less a fantasy than saying we should have Space-X send everyone to Mars until the virus is gone. That may be difficult to hear, but it's the truth." I don't think Trump can or will say that. And even if he does, half the country won't listen.

The snap decisions that have been made are going to inform this all the way through. If Trump were to say the shutdown is over, many governors will say it isn't. And even if everyone agreed, people will still be dying and many will be screaming that the government doesn't care.

They've got us looking suspiciously at our neighbors as if they're enemy soldiers out to shoot us down. Now they're telling us to snitch on each other and some people are cheering that on.

Everyone has the right to feed their family. You're using cops to prevent me from doing that. What's next? Oh, the government is going to take care of us? Everyone knows it can't. Pretty soon if a person can't ply his trade he's going to have to look to take what belongs to someone else. Pritzker has billions and Lightfoot is still collecting her pay.

It's a fucking mess.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
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Agreed on most of this. I think it will be a slow progression back to normalcy. August seems like a realistic time for MOST things to be back to normal (ie. restaurants, stores, etc.), but I think large scale events with 20,000+ people are going to take a lot longer to return.

The major difference between Easter and August is that in August we're 4 months closer to and potentially only 4 months away from a vaccine---that seems optimistic; but could be we'll at least have medical providers/first-responders/LE/troops being vaccinated late 2020/first days of 2021. It'll take longer to roll out to the rest of the country/planet.

If you're the folks in charge, who likely have known since day one the truth that the restrictions won't lift until a vaccine's available, what do you do:

tell the people from the get-go that this thing is OOC and the only way to contain it enough to allow a return to normal everyday life is with a vaccine and that a vaccine will take 12 to 18 months to develop and roll out nationwide.

Or do you dole out false hope as the time between our awful here-and-now and vaccine-fueled-freedom narrows.

March: " Hang in there, it'll be over in April, in the meantime, have fun creating Zoom backgrounds and hanging out with the family"

April: "Keep on keeping on, May looks good for a return to normal, here's a 1200$ check to tide you over til then"

May: ???


Telling people in August that this won't lift until 2021 is more palatable to the people than telling us that in March or April.

I don't know what's palatable. I do know what's possible. And shuttering the country until 2021 isn't. No matter how much our leaders try to "protect" us from the truth. You won't have a banking system. We'll be a hunter/gatherer society.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I don't think that's unreasonable, I'd expect it to be so.

I won't be there, they could open everything up next week but I'm gonna lay low for awhile. Work, grocery store, home depot..that's about it. We've been laying low and will continue to do so. I don't think you'll see sell out crowds at sporting event this year..not even the NFL. I don't even think we'll be going to any bars or restaurants for a few months.

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This shit is gonna be floating around for awhile, probably going to mutate in the fall.

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If Opening Day were tomorrow, Id be there.

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Speculation based on what other countries have done and the specter of der google having been brought inside the C19 inner-circle early on and working on technology solutions to deal with COVID-19

1) More available tests for coronravirus with faster turn-around time is the first hurdle to any attempt at even an incremental ramp up in economic activity/returning to normal. The good news: that is already happening.

2) More information/data about

(i) are previously exposed individuals immune to re-exposure to C19? The answer so far appears to be yes...at least for some period after exposure;

(ii) how long does that exposure immunity last? Immunity/vaccines generally don't last forever. Hence we get updated vaccinations for various things over time. The question scientists are looking into and building datasets on is "once a body's exposed to coronavirus and a body develops antibodies to fend off the virus, how long do those antibodies persist?"


3) Once more and faster testing for corona is available and they've developed reasonable parameters for how long to expect exposure immunity to last and we're on the downside of the initial outbreak curve, they aren't going to just let everyone go back to work/school/play....

4) Expect that if you wanna be among the first to be allowed to be out and about going to work (perhaps in June more likely July or August) that you'll be required to install tracking software on your mobile device. Google already has all this data; they'll just repackage it as a COVID-19 app and add some additional authentication, reporting and tracking features. You'll be given authorization to be at, say, a work location between certain hours and then expected to return home and remain there until your next scheduled work shift, with side trips for grocery/pharmacy/other essentials. They'll prolly also use it to enforce/schedule stepped commuting.

5) This is all pure speculation but if they are going to try the above good chance they try it in the coming Summer months, due to the combination of having faster testing + being on the down-slope of the outbreak curve + warmer weather + millions already exposed.

6) If/when they adopt the above system, expect newly exposed individuals to be quarantined in locations and ways other than simply being told to remain in their own homes. Perhaps via an electronic tethering system, maybe tied to mobile devices. At least this is what other countries dealing with corona have found to be effective. Or you roll up to a testing drive thru--say on your way downtown to go to work, and you test positive: you're immediately whisked away and quarantined somewhere you can't infect other people. I don't see this being a routine thing, but it's something other countries have done.

169% speculation, IMO, YMMV, Yadda, yadda, yadda

It is and no matter Trump does he will be labeled wrong like you suggest. And a lot of this, of course, get politically by the media. I said yesterday on another thread is that I hope that Trump doesn't get overwhelmed with these scientists and these "models" of doom. In a perfect world with fact checked and accurate data, then by all means use these models but this isn't what is occurring. The data is bogus from lots of countries and especially China.

This country has got to open in a common sense way for a lot of solid reasons. IF we as a people continue to observe common sense practices and a degree of social distancing at regular events this stuff can get worked out and get people working again. We need to stop these predictions of massive doom also. It is scaring the shit out of people and must be driving some vulnerable people crazy.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Well yeah, it's the Sox. You could maintain 30' between each other.. I'm talking about every other MLB stadium and NFL team.

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Maybe what they do is selling tickets that space people apart from each other and all fans need to wear masks? Food vendors would observe similar rules that restaurant are doing right now. This stuff is all common sense but hey, a month ago I was all set to got to spring training for the White Sox and play golf. When they open the golf courses I'm out there. And when baseball starts, I'm going. This fear of getting sick is out of proportion in the majority of the country. Certain hot spots certainly need special consideration and planning for. I think August should be a late date for the majority of the country

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

There is no commonsense way to "open" the country back up. People are still going to be dying from the effects of the coronavirus. You just have to level with people and explain the economic consequences and also be able to live with the political ones. Reality is, your title doesn't mean shit if we don't have a country. History will judge you kindly because of your honesty.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

My son works on installing and maintaining the refrigeration parts of large grocery and stores like Walmart and Costco that also sell food products. And he carries with him a letter testifying to the requirements of his job and the need for him to work and travel to the locations where he is needed. This letter is in case he is stopped for being on the road and not home bound by rule.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Sure there is a way to open the country back up using common sense.And as far as "honesty" goes that is true. We've had illnesses before this where people have gotten very ill and many died. It is really too bad that the Democrat Party and most of the media will not agree to help dealing with this crisis and instead are fanning the fears of the American people and attacking Trump in pretty much everything that he does or is even thinking about.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Hawk, do you believe the virus votes democrat?

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Come-on. Rahm Emmanuel penned the infamous phrase when he worked for Barry O. of "Never let a crisis go to waste". YOu cannot deny that ever since Trump declared that he was going to run, the Dems have used every thing imaginable to attack the guy including making shit up. Now there is talk once again, the Pelosi is organizing another impeachment trial for his actions on the China Virus. But the MEDIA is even more corrupt and it is sickening. And with 90% of the working people in the media right now registered Dems nationally you could expect generally biased coverage but the sickening part of it is the fact that they deliberately LIE on many of their news "stories".

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

75% of the population will have had it by August and built up antibodies

It’s all exponential equations. I’ll explain it to you sometime

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Not everyone's antibodies will be at the same level come August. If someone was exposed in March, will their C19 antibody levels still be sufficient for immunity by August?

Well we all know that that ship sailed on day one of this abortion of an administration.

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