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I think since they are openly calling it a QB competition shows it is Foles job to lose.


With the way Pace and Nagy operate there is really no telling what they are thinking. I am convinced they already know who they want as their starter. Whether they signed Foles to automatically be the starter, or if they signed him just as a smoke screen to fool fans into thinking that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky isn't guaranteed the job, who knows.


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Bernstein just said they are going to play audio from this Bears media deal where they talk about the QB competition. So tune into the Score if you want to hear it

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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


Yes, he has also had horrible seasons. There is no telling which Foles we are getting.


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Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


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It's simply not possible to have a QB competition in today's game. Unless you are going to judge them based on what they do against backups.


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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


Yes, he has also had horrible seasons. There is no telling which Foles we are getting.

It’s Chicago. We know what Foles you are getting.

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It's simply not possible to have a QB competition in today's game. Unless you are going to judge them based on what they do against backups.

Also because there are really only fifteen or so starting caliber quarterbacks in the league so nine times out of ten these competitions are moot.


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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


Yes, he has also had horrible seasons. There is no telling which Foles we are getting.



I don't put any stock in his time under Jeff Fischer, he's been pretty good outside of that..he's an upgrade over Mitch, that's all we really needed the last two years and upgrade over Mitch and we're SB contenders.

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FavreFan wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


Yes, he has also had horrible seasons. There is no telling which Foles we are getting.

It’s Chicago. We know what Foles you are getting.


I know he'll learn the playbook,unlike Mitch, who can't grasp it.

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It’s Chicago. We know what Foles you are getting.

Same guy that broke Philly's Super Bowl curse though.

Who would you rather have (for arguments sake on the same contract): Nick Foles or Carson Wentz?


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It’s Chicago. We know what Foles you are getting.

Same guy that broke Philly's Super Bowl curse though.

Who would you rather have (for arguments sake on the same contract): Nick Foles or Carson Wentz?

Wentz. He can still be really good if he can stay healthy.

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Wentz is great, he started all 16 last year. I expect another great season this year.

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Antarctica wrote:
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It’s Chicago. We know what Foles you are getting.

Same guy that broke Philly's Super Bowl curse though.

Who would you rather have (for arguments sake on the same contract): Nick Foles or Carson Wentz?


Carson Wentz. Easily.


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Fyi, lots of Eagles fans disagree and I think I do too.


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Nick Foles may not have been the first choice among Bears fans who were hoping the team would add competition for Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this offseason, but he was apparently a popular target in NFL circles as a quarterback who can help a team that's on the brink of the playoffs get over that difficult hump.

The Bears were bidding against several teams, including the Indianapolis Colts, according to The Athletic's Dan Pompei.

"The Jaguars weren't shopping Foles this year," Pompei wrote, "but the Colts were bidding as well as the Bears. And others were in the mix, from what little birdies say."

Colts general manager Chris Ballard is widely regarded as one of the best (if not the best) GMs in the sport, and while his interest in Foles isn't confirmation that Ryan Pace made the right decision targeting the former backup-turned-Super Bowl winner, it certainly helps ease at least some concerns fans have about Foles.


:shock: on the chris ballard comment, that's news to me. Former bear scout if i recall. I do recall the previous colt GM was Hub's guy Ryan Grigson - who turned out to be even worse than PHil Emery at his job.

anyway i wonder if HOF pompei is trying to carry water for the bears to explain why such a high pick as given up for foles


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Fyi, lots of Eagles fans disagree and I think I do too.

I can see why an Eagles fan would think that. Wentz has had a frustrating start to his career and Foles won them a SB. But Wentz has had 2 good seasons out of 4 and Foles has had like 2 good seasons out of 10.

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Wentz had an awesome start to his career but the injury seems to have sort of done him in. He's really not a lot better than Truibsky these days.


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Antarctica wrote:
Wentz had an awesome start to his career but the injury seems to have sort of done him in. He's really not a lot better than Truibsky these days.

He's better than Mitch. I know what you're referring to, if you looked at his 3 worst throws a game and Mitch's there wouldn't be much of a difference, but Wentz still played well down the stretch even though Madden Create-A-Player Greg Ward was his WR1. Health is a major concern for Wentz but when he's healthy he's a top 12-14 QB. Foles isn't unless it's January.

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Wentz had an awesome start to his career but the injury seems to have sort of done him in. He's really not a lot better than Truibsky these days.


huh? he was winning with XFL WR's at the end of last year. he's not a perfect QB, but i would gladly take him over mitchell without hesitation


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PortageP_Chi wrote:
Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


from my perspective, the high pick given to acquire him and the length of his contract indicates Foles will be the starter and they will reboot with a first round QB pick next year, who will sit behind Foles for a year.

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Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


from my perspective, the high pick given to acquire him and the length of his contract indicates Foles will be the starter and they will reboot with a first round QB pick next year, who will sit behind Foles for a year.

Good chance it's a shitshow that was like that Ryan Fitzpatrick/Jameis Winston year where they just take turns getting benched every other game.

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Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


from my perspective, the high pick given to acquire him and the length of his contract indicates Foles will be the starter and they will reboot with a first round QB pick next year, who will sit behind Foles for a year.

Good chance it's a shitshow that was like that Ryan Fitzpatrick/Jameis Winston year where they just take turns getting benched every other game.


yep

I don't see how Foles will make it through 16 games as a starter behind this line

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Nick Foles may not have been the first choice among Bears fans who were hoping the team would add competition for Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this offseason, but he was apparently a popular target in NFL circles as a quarterback who can help a team that's on the brink of the playoffs get over that difficult hump.

The Bears were bidding against several teams, including the Indianapolis Colts, according to The Athletic's Dan Pompei.

"The Jaguars weren't shopping Foles this year," Pompei wrote, "but the Colts were bidding as well as the Bears. And others were in the mix, from what little birdies say."

Colts general manager Chris Ballard is widely regarded as one of the best (if not the best) GMs in the sport, and while his interest in Foles isn't confirmation that Ryan Pace made the right decision targeting the former backup-turned-Super Bowl winner, it certainly helps ease at least some concerns fans have about Foles.


:shock: on the chris ballard comment, that's news to me. Former bear scout if i recall. I do recall the previous colt GM was Hub's guy Ryan Grigson - who turned out to be even worse than PHil Emery at his job.

anyway i wonder if HOF pompei is trying to carry water for the bears to explain why such a high pick as given up for foles


Don't believe the hype. The Colts weren't going to invest over $50M into the position. They had already signed Rivers.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


from my perspective, the high pick given to acquire him and the length of his contract indicates Foles will be the starter and they will reboot with a first round QB pick next year, who will sit behind Foles for a year.


The rework of the contract tells me the opposite. The only way he's in Chicago in 2021 is if he is the backup.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Biggs thinks Foles is the starter, good read:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html


from my perspective, the high pick given to acquire him and the length of his contract indicates Foles will be the starter and they will reboot with a first round QB pick next year, who will sit behind Foles for a year.


I want to know what exactly voids his deal after this year. It appears as though if Foles is actually good then he can walk.

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Nick Foles may not have been the first choice among Bears fans who were hoping the team would add competition for Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this offseason, but he was apparently a popular target in NFL circles as a quarterback who can help a team that's on the brink of the playoffs get over that difficult hump.

The Bears were bidding against several teams, including the Indianapolis Colts, according to The Athletic's Dan Pompei.

"The Jaguars weren't shopping Foles this year," Pompei wrote, "but the Colts were bidding as well as the Bears. And others were in the mix, from what little birdies say."

Colts general manager Chris Ballard is widely regarded as one of the best (if not the best) GMs in the sport, and while his interest in Foles isn't confirmation that Ryan Pace made the right decision targeting the former backup-turned-Super Bowl winner, it certainly helps ease at least some concerns fans have about Foles.


:shock: on the chris ballard comment, that's news to me. Former bear scout if i recall. I do recall the previous colt GM was Hub's guy Ryan Grigson - who turned out to be even worse than PHil Emery at his job.

anyway i wonder if HOF pompei is trying to carry water for the bears to explain why such a high pick as given up for foles


Don't believe the hype. The Colts weren't going to invest over $50M into the position. They had already signed Rivers.


i think it's implied they were considering foles before signing rivers


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Nick Foles may not have been the first choice among Bears fans who were hoping the team would add competition for Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this offseason, but he was apparently a popular target in NFL circles as a quarterback who can help a team that's on the brink of the playoffs get over that difficult hump.

The Bears were bidding against several teams, including the Indianapolis Colts, according to The Athletic's Dan Pompei.

"The Jaguars weren't shopping Foles this year," Pompei wrote, "but the Colts were bidding as well as the Bears. And others were in the mix, from what little birdies say."

Colts general manager Chris Ballard is widely regarded as one of the best (if not the best) GMs in the sport, and while his interest in Foles isn't confirmation that Ryan Pace made the right decision targeting the former backup-turned-Super Bowl winner, it certainly helps ease at least some concerns fans have about Foles.


:shock: on the chris ballard comment, that's news to me. Former bear scout if i recall. I do recall the previous colt GM was Hub's guy Ryan Grigson - who turned out to be even worse than PHil Emery at his job.

anyway i wonder if HOF pompei is trying to carry water for the bears to explain why such a high pick as given up for foles


Don't believe the hype. The Colts weren't going to invest over $50M into the position. They had already signed Rivers.


i think it's implied they were considering foles before signing rivers


They signed Rivers when the Bears were still kick the Bridgewater tires. That means the Bears bid against themselves AGAIN.

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I'm as down on the Bears as anyone else who has paid attention this off-season but Foles is no joke. Guy has had monster years and basically willed a team to a Super Bowl title. He's also just thirty-one years old, which for a quarterback is not near over the hill.

If they can keep him upright he can make the most out of Robinson and Miller.


Yes, he has also had horrible seasons. There is no telling which Foles we are getting.



I don't put any stock in his time under Jeff Fischer, he's been pretty good outside of that..he's an upgrade over Mitch, that's all we really needed the last two years and upgrade over Mitch and we're SB contenders.


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The best case scenario happens if Foles puts up 3 more points per game and is able to keep the D off the field it may get them to 9 wins which is all you likely need under new playoff rules. This is the most likely outcome because the D will be top 10 and will keep them in games, Foles can operate like a point guard and find open guys for chunk plays, competent offense, not top half of league, but not bottom five. The question is how/when do they find the next franchise QB, Foles is just a one or two year fill in guy. It almost has to be with next years first round pick, but how can you trust Pace to pick another QB?

The worst case scenario is the wheels fall off this year and Foles inability to produce proves Nagy is not good at his job, that gets everyone launched and a higher draft pick, the worst case scenario is almost better for the franchise long term.


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