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You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or got way out of context again...

Just take the L...

Have you found me an example yet that doesn't fit the context? Darko and Spaulding are working hard on it. Maybe you can help them.

Or you could tell me how not getting in a room with other people infringes on your personal ability to worship.

Either one would be awesome.

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I'm not sure what you mean by this...you're interpretation of Matthew 6 had no context.

[i]Believers are encouraged to, "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward loe and good dees, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the having of doing, but encouraging one another..." (Hebrews 10:24-25, NIV).

Corporate worship goes back to the Old Testament and is a part of Judaism and Islam as well.

Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


There are none at this time that I'm aware of. Because they aren't protesting, other faiths should just shut up? Still not following the original premise that by following Matthew 6 you should have no problem with the government telling you not to publicly worship because those people are hypocrites. Your end point now has nothing to do or connects with where you started.

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You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or got way out of context again...

Just take the L...

Have you found me an example yet that doesn't fit the context? Darko and Spaulding are working hard on it. Maybe you can help them.

Or you could tell me how not getting in a room with other people infringes on your personal ability to worship.

Either one would be awesome.

Thanks


I'm not sure what you mean by this...you're interpretation of Matthew 6 had no context.

[i]Believers are encouraged to, "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward loe and good dees, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the having of doing, but encouraging one another..." (Hebrews 10:24-25, NIV).

Corporate worship goes back to the Old Testament and is a part of Judaism and Islam as well.

Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


There are none at this time that I'm aware of. Because they aren't protesting, other faiths should just shut up? Still not following the original premise that by following Matthew 6 you should have no problem with the government telling you not to publicly worship because those people are hypocrites. Your end point now has nothing to do or connects with where you started.

Who are the only people who are crying?

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You guys ever read section 7 of the Illinois emergency management act?
Chilling stuff in there.
p(4) On behalf of this State to take possession of, and to acquire full title or a lesser specified interest in, any personal property as may be necessary to accomplish the objectives set forth in Section 2 of this Act, including: airplanes,automobiles, trucks, trailers, buses, and other vehicles; coal, oils, gasoline, and other fuels and means of propulsion; explosives, materials, equipment, and supplies; animals and livestock; feed and seed; food and provisions for humans and animals; clothing and bedding; and medicines and medical and surgical supplies; and to take possession of and for a limited period occupy and use any real estate necessary to accomplish those objectives; but only upon the undertaking by the State to pay just compensation therefor as in this Act provided, and then only under the following provisions:
It goes on to describe the mechanics behind how things are taken and how fair market value compensation is paid (eventually). A fun little nugget in there seems to say that if your property is taken, and any debate ensues as to fair value that ultimately is determined by the court, when value is established, it is paid, minus taxes due during the legal process. That's nice.

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Wait till you hear about this thing call Eminent Domain, it will blow your socks off.


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Have you found me an example yet that doesn't fit the context? Darko and Spaulding are working hard on it. Maybe you can help them.

Or you could tell me how not getting in a room with other people infringes on your personal ability to worship.

Either one would be awesome.

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The not getting in a room with other people determined by the government is the infringement on personal ability to worship and restriction on the 1st amendment.

You don't value church or religion. That's fine. (Darkside doesn't value it but he does value the 1st amendment.) Others do and they have a protected right.


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B Mac wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
B Mac wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
B Mac wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or got way out of context again...

Just take the L...

Have you found me an example yet that doesn't fit the context? Darko and Spaulding are working hard on it. Maybe you can help them.

Or you could tell me how not getting in a room with other people infringes on your personal ability to worship.

Either one would be awesome.

Thanks


I'm not sure what you mean by this...you're interpretation of Matthew 6 had no context.

[i]Believers are encouraged to, "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward loe and good dees, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the having of doing, but encouraging one another..." (Hebrews 10:24-25, NIV).

Corporate worship goes back to the Old Testament and is a part of Judaism and Islam as well.

Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


There are none at this time that I'm aware of. Because they aren't protesting, other faiths should just shut up? Still not following the original premise that by following Matthew 6 you should have no problem with the government telling you not to publicly worship because those people are hypocrites. Your end point now has nothing to do or connects with where you started.

Who are the only people who are crying?


It would seem non-mainline Christian Churches...Megachurches if you will.

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Wait till you hear about this thing call Eminent Domain, it will blow your socks off.

Yeah thanks. Actually was involved in that once.

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Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.


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Who are the only people who are crying?


It would seem non-mainline Christian Churches...Megachurches if you will.

Thanks. Have a good day.

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Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.


Exactly...

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Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.

Right but they aren't. The people you are stanning for are the exact people the verse is talking about.

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Who are the only people who are crying?


It would seem non-mainline Christian Churches...Megachurches if you will.

Thanks. Have a good day.


Thanks, you too.

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Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.

Right but they aren't. The people you are stanning for are the exact people the verse is talking about.


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Try to think of it as Darkside does. He doesn't care about religion. He cares that there is a 1st amendment protecting a right that specifically states it's protection from the government.

Also most people do not attend church so they can say look at me praying and going to church. They value it for a variety of reasons.


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Harvard Dan wrote:
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B Mac wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
B Mac wrote:
Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.

Right but they aren't. The people you are stanning for are the exact people the verse is talking about.


"Stretch..."

Keep grasping at straws.

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You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or got way out of context again...

Just take the L...


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Try to think of it as Darkside does. He doesn't care about religion. He cares that there is a 1st amendment protecting a right that specifically states it's protection from the government.

Also most people do not attend church so they can say look at me praying and going to church. They value it for a variety of reasons.

You are correct. Those are not the people I'm talking about. Those are also not the people who have any issue with staying home right now.

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B Mac wrote:
Harvard Dan wrote:
Hawk Harrelson wrote:
B Mac wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
B Mac wrote:
Right. So please link me to which Mosque or Temple is raising a stink right now. Thanks.


If they did, they'd be well within their rights, and I'd be supportive of them.

Right but they aren't. The people you are stanning for are the exact people the verse is talking about.


"Stretch..."

Keep grasping at straws.


Pardon me while I repeat myself...(with spelling corrections)
Harvard Dan wrote:

You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to me to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or go way out of context again...


Because a group is complaining about being prohibited from worship...but others aren't...that makes them hypocrites as per your interpretation of Matthew 6. I bet your favorite Steely Dan album is Pretzel Logic as that is all you've had here today.

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You guys ever read section 7 of the Illinois emergency management act?
Chilling stuff in there.
p(4) On behalf of this State to take possession of, and to acquire full title or a lesser specified interest in, any personal property as may be necessary to accomplish the objectives set forth in Section 2 of this Act, including: airplanes,automobiles, trucks, trailers, buses, and other vehicles; coal, oils, gasoline, and other fuels and means of propulsion; explosives, materials, equipment, and supplies; animals and livestock; feed and seed; food and provisions for humans and animals; clothing and bedding; and medicines and medical and surgical supplies; and to take possession of and for a limited period occupy and use any real estate necessary to accomplish those objectives; but only upon the undertaking by the State to pay just compensation therefor as in this Act provided, and then only under the following provisions:
It goes on to describe the mechanics behind how things are taken and how fair market value compensation is paid (eventually). A fun little nugget in there seems to say that if your property is taken, and any debate ensues as to fair value that ultimately is determined by the court, when value is established, it is paid, minus taxes due during the legal process. That's nice.


That's basic eminent domain language

constitution allows specifically talks about the taking of property for just compensation

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Pardon me while I repeat myself...(with spelling corrections)
Harvard Dan wrote:

You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to me to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or go way out of context again...


Because a group is complaining about being prohibited from worship...but others aren't...that makes them hypocrites as per your interpretation of Matthew 6. I bet your favorite Steely Dan album is Pretzel Logic as that is all you've had here today.

You can keep repeating yourself all you want. The only people who have a problem with it are those that want to cause a spectacle. Those are the exact people the scripture is referring to.

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You guys ever read section 7 of the Illinois emergency management act?
Chilling stuff in there.
p(4) On behalf of this State to take possession of, and to acquire full title or a lesser specified interest in, any personal property as may be necessary to accomplish the objectives set forth in Section 2 of this Act, including: airplanes,automobiles, trucks, trailers, buses, and other vehicles; coal, oils, gasoline, and other fuels and means of propulsion; explosives, materials, equipment, and supplies; animals and livestock; feed and seed; food and provisions for humans and animals; clothing and bedding; and medicines and medical and surgical supplies; and to take possession of and for a limited period occupy and use any real estate necessary to accomplish those objectives; but only upon the undertaking by the State to pay just compensation therefor as in this Act provided, and then only under the following provisions:
It goes on to describe the mechanics behind how things are taken and how fair market value compensation is paid (eventually). A fun little nugget in there seems to say that if your property is taken, and any debate ensues as to fair value that ultimately is determined by the court, when value is established, it is paid, minus taxes due during the legal process. That's nice.


That's basic eminent domain language

constitution allows specifically talks about the taking of property for just compensation

Ok I guess I understand eminent domain incorrectly. I always thought of it land. At least when we got socked with it it was land. This lists vehicles, food, medicine... even occupation of residences. Is that basic eminent domain?

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Pardon me while I repeat myself...(with spelling corrections)
Harvard Dan wrote:

You wanted to debate the meaning of Matthew 6 that you used out of context, then applied it to a group worshiping in a Megachurch since you were wrong, and now mention Matthew 18 way way way out of context. But you're not pivoting...just waiting for you to give up and tell to me to go eat a bag of dicks...or pivot or go way out of context again...


Because a group is complaining about being prohibited from worship...but others aren't...that makes them hypocrites as per your interpretation of Matthew 6. I bet your favorite Steely Dan album is Pretzel Logic as that is all you've had here today.

You can keep repeating yourself all you want. The only people who have a problem with it are those that want to cause a spectacle. Those are the exact people the scripture is referring to.


I disagree, but oh well...

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Darkside wrote:
You guys ever read section 7 of the Illinois emergency management act?
Chilling stuff in there.
p(4) On behalf of this State to take possession of, and to acquire full title or a lesser specified interest in, any personal property as may be necessary to accomplish the objectives set forth in Section 2 of this Act, including: airplanes,automobiles, trucks, trailers, buses, and other vehicles; coal, oils, gasoline, and other fuels and means of propulsion; explosives, materials, equipment, and supplies; animals and livestock; feed and seed; food and provisions for humans and animals; clothing and bedding; and medicines and medical and surgical supplies; and to take possession of and for a limited period occupy and use any real estate necessary to accomplish those objectives; but only upon the undertaking by the State to pay just compensation therefor as in this Act provided, and then only under the following provisions:
It goes on to describe the mechanics behind how things are taken and how fair market value compensation is paid (eventually). A fun little nugget in there seems to say that if your property is taken, and any debate ensues as to fair value that ultimately is determined by the court, when value is established, it is paid, minus taxes due during the legal process. That's nice.


That's basic eminent domain language

constitution allows specifically talks about the taking of property for just compensation

Ok I guess I understand eminent domain incorrectly. I always thought of it land. At least when we got socked with it it was land. This lists vehicles, food, medicine... even occupation of residences. Is that basic eminent domain?


its all public takings

lousy limeys used to take without just compensation

everything you own is a grant from the government whose authority is a grant from that thing you don't believe in. They let you own it but reserve the right to be a native american giver.

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Darkside wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
You guys ever read section 7 of the Illinois emergency management act?
Chilling stuff in there.
p(4) On behalf of this State to take possession of, and to acquire full title or a lesser specified interest in, any personal property as may be necessary to accomplish the objectives set forth in Section 2 of this Act, including: airplanes,automobiles, trucks, trailers, buses, and other vehicles; coal, oils, gasoline, and other fuels and means of propulsion; explosives, materials, equipment, and supplies; animals and livestock; feed and seed; food and provisions for humans and animals; clothing and bedding; and medicines and medical and surgical supplies; and to take possession of and for a limited period occupy and use any real estate necessary to accomplish those objectives; but only upon the undertaking by the State to pay just compensation therefor as in this Act provided, and then only under the following provisions:
It goes on to describe the mechanics behind how things are taken and how fair market value compensation is paid (eventually). A fun little nugget in there seems to say that if your property is taken, and any debate ensues as to fair value that ultimately is determined by the court, when value is established, it is paid, minus taxes due during the legal process. That's nice.


That's basic eminent domain language

constitution allows specifically talks about the taking of property for just compensation

Ok I guess I understand eminent domain incorrectly. I always thought of it land. At least when we got socked with it it was land. This lists vehicles, food, medicine... even occupation of residences. Is that basic eminent domain?


its all public takings

lousy limeys used to take without just compensation

everything you own is a grant from the government whose authority is a grant from that thing you don't believe in. They let you own it but reserve the right to be a native american giver.

Right yeah ok. I remember something from civics about how prior to the constitution the government didnt even have to pay you for taking unimproved land.

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He wants a total fucking quarantine for 2 weeks no going out at all? no shopping no nothing? Is he fucking insane? Not only is it almost impossible food/economically wise but mental health wise. There is a reason why hermits and monks are mostly insane.

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12,000 cases in Illinois with a 12 million population.
That is a quick 1/10th of 1%,
and has thrown millions of people out of work and will bankrupt 1000's of
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12,000 cases in Illinois with a 12 million population.
That is a quick 1/10th of 1%,
and has thrown millions of people out of work and will bankrupt 1000's of
businesses.

And Gov. Jelly Belly wants to close up more. WTF



he's a fat fuck.

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He wants a total fucking quarantine for 2 weeks no going out at all? no shopping no nothing? Is he fucking insane? Not only is it almost impossible food/economically wise but mental health wise. There is a reason why hermits and monks are mostly insane.

Did he actually say this today?

Is there a place that publishes transcripts of his daily blob-blabber sessions?

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It's gonna be 70 degrees today. There will be a million people out walking around. You just know this corpulent turd is gonna pull his Fat Caesar act and give us some crazy decree.

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