We definitely have a few disappointing seasons ahead of us, but we are good enough to be competitive. Just laughing at the previous poster who said we could have first pick overall. Jags, Redskins, Panthers, Bengals, Lions, Giants, Dolphins, Broncos.... all worse than us.

The Bears certainly have the potential to the be the worst team in football next year.

They'll compete for the bottom 5-6 team in the league. 7-9 is a generous prediction for 2020. We saw the ceiling in 2018. First round playoff exit. All downhill from that point.

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Doubt it. Our defense is too good and have enough offensive weapons to beat out the previously mentioned teams (ie. Jags, Redskins, Panthers, Bengals, Lions, Giants, Dolphins, Broncos).

They were so good in 2018, man. The runningbacks were thunder and lightning, the line was a cohesive and effective unit, they had one of the deepest receiver corps in the league...and I dont even need to say anything about the defense.

Should've won it all that year. Or at least won the NFC.

This has been the franchise norm for the past 20 plus years, until we find a franchise QB we are in the same cycle. A bad start next year will likely get us into, "Tank for Trevor" mode with yet another reset at GM/HC, at what point do they finally do a Bulls type franchise reset where everyone but the owners are out the door? The McCaskey family has a solid track record of poor hiring decisions, it's way past time for a completely new mindset.

Trevor Lawrence isn't going first overall, guarantee it.

See flaws in his game as well, but if he has a run like Burrow had it's highly likely he is first QB picked and if the season goes off the rail we are likely taking top QB. Your post prompted me to check a mock for 2021 and it had the beloved picking number six, not much national belief in the 2020 Bears.

I would like to hear your reasons for this. Not saying you are wrong, but every possible source has him listed as going first overall. Would like to hear why you think you know something that everyone else in the entire football community does not.

Must be a big Penei Sewell guy

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LOL, may be true, but his preference does not over ride the countless opinions of legit college football sources. Would just like to hear why he thinks Lawrence is not going first overall.

Somebody else will break out and take the reigns. Just like it would've been considered outrageous to say Tua wouldn't go first overall this time last year. The presumptive first overall pick going into the season almost always slips, its like a rule.

I disagree with this entirely. I also think he would have been the #1 draft pick of every prior year up to 2012 with Andrew Luck

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Tua would be the #1 pick over Burrow but for the injury

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I dont agree with that at all. Even before the injury Burrow was started to overtake Tua on the mocks. That performance in the CFB Playoff was legendary, he put up historic numbers before the game was at halftime. The Bengals could still do something unexpected, but there was nothing stopping Burrow from becoming the presumptive 1.1 with the year he had.

Got several names to back this up? "Almost always slips" - I would like to see a list of the presumptive picks over the last couple decades and I guarantee you that your statement is wrong.

I always have thought of it as the Matt Leinart effect, since he seemed to be the first in my memory to really fall despite being the slam dunk 1.1 pick before the season.

I actually remember having this exact same argument on this board about Tagoviloa before.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1

Aside from Luck and Winston how many of these guys who went first overall would've predicted before the college season?

I would say at least half were in the top 2-3. I am not saying the presumptive pick is always accurate, but your statement of "Almost always slips" was a bit extreme. They are not always right, but usually fairly accurate.

how far do you want to go back?

I think SCam was the presumptive #1 heading into his last year in college

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Ok, we disagree. Tua is going top five this year even with significant injuries, a lost season and an inability to fully vet him physically. I feel I can strongly support my position.

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Herbert has gained a lot of momentum since the Senior Bowl. Lombardi says some teams have taken Tua off their boards. The best thing for Tua would be to slide to a team with a good line and an old QB.

I think Herbert's arm talent is 1.1 worthy.

I dont know, if Herbert interviewed way better than Burrow I'd be open to taking Herbert 1.1. Now, I get Chase Young is very nearly as good as an edge prospect gets and the Redskins have a glaring need for him so I understand if Herbert doesn't go 1.2; but if he falls past 1.3 teams have lost their minds. Aside from Mahomes, the obvious one, maybe Wentz had as good raw arm talent coming out of school? Before that you'd have to go back to Robert Griffin III to find someone with Herbert's cannon.

If Herbert has a slide, like for whatever reason some team doesn't trade up to 1.3 the get him, the Bears should be on it. A trade-up into the first-round cost both the seconds and a 2021 first is not something I'd be unwilling to do. How far down the first round he would need to fall for that be a viable trade package for a team to make the trade? I dont know. My guess is around 1.12.

But this is contingent on how well Herbert interviews and whether he has the personality attributes that are just unknowable for the rest of us.

If I had to bet money I would bet Herbert goes #5 to Miami and Tua goes #6 to LA. The Chargers are in big trouble in LA and need to build some excitement so maybe they're more willing to take the risk.

I think someone will move up to 1.3 and grab one of the quarterback not named Burrow and then whichever doesn't get taken there will have a pronounced slide. Perhaps even past Jordan Love. Just my gut, predicting the draft is almost impossible if you dont have some sort of inside source track.

Yes anything is possible with a player like Tua (great ability but medical concerns) and its no secret Detroit would like to trade down.

How far up in the first round can you get for two second rounders, maybe lets you move up to end of first round, but likely need to use next years first round pick to move up farther.

2.43 and 2.50 probably get them no better than something like 1.30 or so. They would need to throw in next year's first to meaningfully move up into the meat of the first round.

Herbert's Blaine Gabbert/Ryan Tanehill all over again. If Tua's left arm got amputated today I think he would still be a better prospect.

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I hope he is right, but Kyle Long is basing this opinion on what?