That's like getting rid of primaries.

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If Trump went medicare for all you would just see people who hate Trump now be against it and people who love Trump now being for it.

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The Orange Twat. I won't forgive him for not using the UK model(before they caved), and the Sweden model.

I encountered this while out for a walk Saturday.

I make sure I keep distance / cross the street when encountering others, etc, but an older couple cycling on the street gave us the ole staredown.

Fuck em.

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Could imagine the political shitstorm though?

I am absolutely with you. The vast majority of countries picked the wrong tactic. Unless you are blessed with splendid geographic isolation like New Zealand, who can reliably close itself off and purge the thing out in a month, the way forward was to just let it run its course. You can count the countries who did the right thing on one hand.

And when you ask why they did the wrong the only plausible answer is politics. If you appear to have done nothing your opposition will crucify you, governing by campaigning meets "let no crisis go to waste". We all lose.

The blanket shutdown was due to lack of prep. If there was a national/regional/state infrastructure/plan in Feb I doubt these governors would've performed seppuku to their states.

Most governors aren't creative problem solvers.

Hmmmmm

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

There was a plan, it was for them to sell off all their securities and get out of the market before tanking the global economy.

No, it's not.
what matters is money. That's what will continue to run the healthcare industry.

Americans love doctors. They love prescription drugs. They love being unhealthy. Health Insurance companies care about parient satisfaction as it keeps money rolling in. The doctors in nurses have no authority here...they can refuse to comply but then they'll be out of work.

there may be changes and reaction.....but it will be meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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Cool. Back to school May 1st, right?

Wow. 21-0 for lifting the restrictions.

I guess Ogie hasn't voted yet.

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Most lopsided poll in CFMB history. Not one pisser voting against the majority? 22-0 now.

The "lift" votes went from 0-21 in less than two hours. That's what I call exponential growth.

Its like the first quarter of a Bears Packers Monday Night game.


Edit; The Bears are 0 here

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it's kind of a flawed poll, who the fuck would vote for the first option? EVERYONE wants things to try and return to normalcy, especially when you consider the generally good news that things are beginning to level off. some have concerns about it causing another spike (to what level i odnt know). others dont care or ignore this. that's up for debate

Return to normalcy should be tomorrow. Everbody is educated. Everybody can make their own decisions. There's masking tape with writing on it all over the country.

It's almost as if some of us hope for some sort of normal life 'for the ones that are left' when this is all over.

You know...the 99.2% of us that are left.

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I watched the first game from 2018 this morning, it was GLORIOUS!!!

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Have you read this thread at all during the past two weeks? Prior to the last 48 hours or so, there were MANY who seemed to imply that keeping things locked down indefinitely was the only correct way to deal with this virus.

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while the virus was escalating at near "exponential" levels some were advocating cautious approach? and with new recent good news/data they have changed their position? good for them.

Pardon me. I meant the 400 page Corona thread, not this one.

Yes, people were cautious and that I totally understand. There was also a segment of people that said things needed to stay locked down regardless of what data might show about the curve or whatever.

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And just so it's clear. The height of cases was APRIL 3RD. APRIL 3RD the prediction for the peak was for April 15th. And here we are on April 13th with a 21-0 vote for May 1st.

Shit changes fast.

He sounds like Rush Limbaugh.

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yea but he's right

Rush wouldn't have linked the Replacements and Twisted Sister.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

We should get back to normal but with reduced occupancy limits in currently closed businesses. Start with 10% this coming week and increase by 10% a week to 50%, then decide from there. For example, Sport Clips can operate with two stylists and 3 customers at a time and municipalities should be flexible with allowing extended hours beyond traditional zoning. That's $100/hour of revenue for them plus tips and there's enough backlog that they could probably do three 5 hour shifts a day (6am-9pm).

While I voted yes, I am conflicted about two things:
1. Job protections for people with school aged kids until the schools either reopen or the originally scheduled last day of school,
2. Factories set up where employees cannot possibly socially distance and have the line operate.

I fall into neither camp. So I do not feel qualified to propose policy in those areas.

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Doing rough math in my head if there's 350mil ppl in the USA and just under 500k cases, that means appx 1/70th of the population gets blessed by this disease. USA mortality rate is like 4% or something so appx 1/1750 people dies from this thing.... And it's what, appx 1 in 10 losing their job/livelihood?

I'm not saying what's right or wrong, but I can see the point here.

Edit: it's ~580k as of right now so I reckon it's like 1/1500something or 1/1600something dying from this

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The unemployment rate is estimated at between 13% and 15% right now. The highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression. It is projected to near 20% by the end of the month, especially if any extensions of stay at home orders are considered.

A death sentence of another kind.

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