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I read something today the us pays around 120M the next highest was Japan and they were around 50 or 60. WTF?



India pays $3M


What does China pay??


For the same 2-year assessment, China paid $37M for '18-19.

India and China have 2.7 billion people. We have 350 million and paid $118M.

I'm not saying we should cut funding. I'm no WHO expert (I do play a mean pinball) but that does not seem right from a financial perspective. We are stepping up where others are not. But, maybe there is something I don't understand about it - which is a good bet in general.



This was our duty when we were the dominant economic force in the post WWII paradigm. But it can't be that China takes all our jobs, poisons us, and we continue to be the primary funder of global organizations that do nothing but undermine our interests.


Plus,China is still considered a developing country. That is why they get breaks on all that shit. We as a country need to stop giving those fucks any aid. There are a lot of evaluations that this might cause us as a county to make about how we fund the rest of the world.

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Probably miniscule in comparison to the amount we've poured into the IMF and World Bank to train CIA agents and screw over developing countries over the last half century plus.


Evil whites from America are oppressing world wide.


Always about race with you little guy.


What third world countries have the CIA screwed-over in the last half century? I'm sure they have made messy situations worse, but this is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Evil bankers from the US are keeping people poor. Ok dude. And you are the most race obsessed people here. So cut the shit, and don't tell me that' s not what you were implying.


Don't let this dipshit bother you. We all know who are the real racists on this board, and RR is one of them.


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Deep thoughts right there. What third world countries is the CIA trying to actively impoverish as you suggest? And why do you defer to this evil organization as long as they are opposing Trump? Interesting thought process.

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The Hawk wrote:
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Regular Reader wrote:
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Probably miniscule in comparison to the amount we've poured into the IMF and World Bank to train CIA agents and screw over developing countries over the last half century plus.


Evil whites from America are oppressing world wide.


Always about race with you little guy.


What third world countries have the CIA screwed-over in the last half century? I'm sure they have made messy situations worse, but this is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Evil bankers from the US are keeping people poor. Ok dude. And you are the most race obsessed people here. So cut the shit, and don't tell me that' s not what you were implying.


Don't let this dipshit bother you. We all know who are the real racists on this board, and RR is one of them.


WHO?


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Deep thoughts right there. What third world countries is the CIA trying to actively impoverish as you suggest? And why do you defer to this evil organization as long as they are opposing Trump? Interesting thought process.


No, but the unhinged word salad you posted is. You must have the 'rona. Seek help.

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beni hanna wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
I read something today the us pays around 120M the next highest was Japan and they were around 50 or 60. WTF?



India pays $3M


What does China pay??


For the same 2-year assessment, China paid $37M for '18-19.

India and China have 2.7 billion people. We have 350 million and paid $118M.

I'm not saying we should cut funding. I'm no WHO expert (I do play a mean pinball) but that does not seem right from a financial perspective. We are stepping up where others are not. But, maybe there is something I don't understand about it - which is a good bet in general.



This was our duty when we were the dominant economic force in the post WWII paradigm. But it can't be that China takes all our jobs, poisons us, and we continue to be the primary funder of global organizations that do nothing but undermine our interests.

Let's dial it back just a bit. World health is something that benefits us a great deal. American conglomerates operate in China, India etc etc. We benefit a great deal by keeping a free world economy flowing smoothly....healthy. our interests are in all of these countries.
What is most frustrating is how China chose to give/withhold information from the rest of the world. The WHO may not be the best organization but the concept of the organization is important for our interests. If it operates correctly it's worth the investment. In this case it didn't.


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Piyansh wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:

Probably miniscule in comparison to the amount we've poured into the IMF and World Bank to train CIA agents and screw over developing countries over the last half century plus.


Evil whites from America are oppressing world wide.


Always about race with you little guy.


What third world countries have the CIA screwed-over in the last half century? I'm sure they have made messy situations worse, but this is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Evil bankers from the US are keeping people poor. Ok dude. And you are the most race obsessed people here. So cut the shit, and don't tell me that' s not what you were implying.


Don't let this dipshit bother you. We all know who are the real racists on this board, and RR is one of them.


WHO?


I really want to know.

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Beni posts sensibly so you don't have to.


That all ended, no?


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Beni posts sensibly so you don't have to.


There are times when you are reading a thread and you just want to continue seeing the thoughts of possibly biased, but generally rational people. Rarely does it survive without the always irrational shitting it up.

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beni hanna wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
I read something today the us pays around 120M the next highest was Japan and they were around 50 or 60. WTF?



India pays $3M


What does China pay??


For the same 2-year assessment, China paid $37M for '18-19.

India and China have 2.7 billion people. We have 350 million and paid $118M.

I'm not saying we should cut funding. I'm no WHO expert (I do play a mean pinball) but that does not seem right from a financial perspective. We are stepping up where others are not. But, maybe there is something I don't understand about it - which is a good bet in general.



This was our duty when we were the dominant economic force in the post WWII paradigm. But it can't be that China takes all our jobs, poisons us, and we continue to be the primary funder of global organizations that do nothing but undermine our interests.

Let's dial it back just a bit. World health is something that benefits us a great deal. American conglomerates operate in China, India etc etc. We benefit a great deal by keeping a free world economy flowing smoothly....healthy. our interests are in all of these countries.
What is most frustrating is how China chose to give/withhold information from the rest of the world. The WHO may not be the best organization but the concept of the organization is important for our interests. If it operates correctly it's worth the investment. In this case it didn't.



World health benefits us. The World Health Organization does not. There are all kinds of organizations that promote world health without the corruption of WHO.

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Regular Reader wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Deep thoughts right there. What third world countries is the CIA trying to actively impoverish as you suggest? And why do you defer to this evil organization as long as they are opposing Trump? Interesting thought process.


No, but the unhinged word salad you posted is. You must have the 'rona. Seek help.


You can seek help you complete piece of trash. You literally get off on calling for the deaths of fellow posters, while living a good life and blaming other races for any inconvenience.

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The USA pays for the WHO's bills and China bribes its leaders.

We should try the WHO officials as war criminals and hang them. The lies they spread at a crucial time were engineered to allow this shit to spiral out of control. We've got this big bad military, let's start unleashing it.


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The USA pays for the WHO's bills and China bribes its leaders.

We should try the WHO officials as war criminals and hang them. The lies they spread at a crucial time were engineered to allow this shit to spiral out of control. We've got this big bad military, let's start unleashing it.



Couldn't agree more.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
beni hanna wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

India pays $3M


What does China pay??


For the same 2-year assessment, China paid $37M for '18-19.

India and China have 2.7 billion people. We have 350 million and paid $118M.

I'm not saying we should cut funding. I'm no WHO expert (I do play a mean pinball) but that does not seem right from a financial perspective. We are stepping up where others are not. But, maybe there is something I don't understand about it - which is a good bet in general.



This was our duty when we were the dominant economic force in the post WWII paradigm. But it can't be that China takes all our jobs, poisons us, and we continue to be the primary funder of global organizations that do nothing but undermine our interests.

Let's dial it back just a bit. World health is something that benefits us a great deal. American conglomerates operate in China, India etc etc. We benefit a great deal by keeping a free world economy flowing smoothly....healthy. our interests are in all of these countries.
What is most frustrating is how China chose to give/withhold information from the rest of the world. The WHO may not be the best organization but the concept of the organization is important for our interests. If it operates correctly it's worth the investment. In this case it didn't.



World health benefits us. The World Health Organization does not. There are all kinds of organizations that promote world health without the corruption of WHO.

Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?

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Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?

Sorry to Spaulding for cutting her quote...too many.

I think you've over complicated things. If the US has to be self reliant for ALL information in the entire world, then why do we have to prop up ANY world organization?

I think the idea is that the WHO would be the proprietor of information and action, not the purveyor of deceit and skullduggery. What other organizations that we contribute to should we force our way into and go over with a fine toothed comb? The UN? Count me in. Then the same people who blame Trump for not sticking his nose into WHO will be aghast at Literally Hitler dictating policy and demanding investigations. You know this to be true.


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Deep thoughts right there. What third world countries is the CIA trying to actively impoverish as you suggest? And why do you defer to this evil organization as long as they are opposing Trump? Interesting thought process.


No, but the unhinged word salad you posted is. You must have the 'rona. Seek help.


You can seek help you complete piece of trash. You literally get off on calling for the deaths of fellow posters, while living a good life and blaming other races for any inconvenience.


It's amusing. I don't initiate engagement with you, but you have a queer need to constantly follow myself and LTG around here say the most inane and sophomoric crap and then become unhinged when I tell you just how little I think of you and your usual drivel.

You are an odd, queer little bird. :lol:

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World health benefits us. The World Health Organization does not. There are all kinds of organizations that promote world health without the corruption of WHO.

Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?

Sorry to Spaulding for cutting her quote...too many.


What actually has occurred puts lie to your contention that the WHO is necessary to protect us from pandemics. The WHO is just one of many corrupt UN subsidiaries.

There's a certain viewpoint among educated American "liberals". You know what it is. The people who post on social media about how "the rest of the world laughs at us." They may or may not be laughing, but they sure have their hands in our pockets.

Again, this isn't about U.S. leadership. It's about the U.S. footing the bills. That's what the rest of the world really wants. Give us your money and shut the fuck up.

As I said above, in the post WWII order, the United States had a responsibility, and more importantly the wherewithal, to do all of these things. And if it wasn't exactly appreciated, so what? We were going to be fine. That's no longer the case. We have unemployed drug addicts sitting around in small towns across the country while slaves in China do what used to be their jobs. But hey, an iPhone is only $600. Net gain! And that was before this pandemic hit.

You ever drive through one of those towns where the Maytag factory is long gone? The whole country may look like that soon enough. But by all means, let's make sure Tedros Adhanom can fly first class.

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Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?

Sorry to Spaulding for cutting her quote...too many.

I think you've over complicated things. If the US has to be self reliant for ALL information in the entire world, then why do we have to prop up ANY world organization?

I think the idea is that the WHO would be the proprietor of information and action, not the purveyor of deceit and skullduggery. What other organizations that we contribute to should we force our way into and go over with a fine toothed comb? The UN? Count me in. Then the same people who blame Trump for not sticking his nose into WHO will be aghast at Literally Hitler dictating policy and demanding investigations. You know this to be true.

Any point being made is lost when a comparison to Hitler is made.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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World health benefits us. The World Health Organization does not. There are all kinds of organizations that promote world health without the corruption of WHO.

Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?


What actually has occurred puts lie to your contention that the WHO is necessary to protect us from pandemics. The WHO is just one of many corrupt UN subsidiaries.

There's a certain viewpoint among educated American "liberals". You know what it is. The people who post on social media about how "the rest of the world laughs at us." They may or may not be laughing, but they sure have their hands in our pockets.

Again, this isn't about U.S. leadership. It's about the U.S. footing the bills. That's what the rest of the world really wants. Give us your money and shut the fuck up.

As I said above, in the post WWII order, the United States had a responsibility, and more importantly the wherewithal, to do all of these things. And if it wasn't exactly appreciated, so what? We were going to be fine. That's no longer the case. We have unemployed drug addicts sitting around in small towns across the country while slaves in China do what used to be their jobs. But hey, an iPhone is only $600. Net gain! And that was before this pandemic hit.

You ever drive through one of those towns where the Maytag factory is long gone? The whole country may look like that soon enough. But by all means, let's make sure Tedros Adhanom can fly first class.

If what has occurred is a lie, why even involve ourselves in WHO business in the first place? When did you formulate your opinions?
What other institutions does the US rely on for information regarding epidemics?
The social narrative is nice and accurate but that isn't changing how corporations will look for the least expensive way to build and sell products. If these companies choose to use China and China is viewed as a bad business partner then companies and their shareholders can take a bath. That whole line of thought is different than determining how best to address disease that can wreck a worldwide economy and its citizenry.

The issue remains the US and the world need an organization like the WHO. If it is not going to be the WHO, the what is it?
It may be we have differing views on what the US role should be in world politics. I don't agree with the idea that the US should not support the WHO or another United Nations that promote the betterment of the world or its citizenry. This is not a good long term strategy. So, economic, health and environmental US inclusion are paramount to our economy and continued relationships throughout the world. Our adversaries will take advantage of our absence and it will haunt this country in the future. That is my opinion.

In short: Shitting on the WHO at this time is misplaced aggression.


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As I mentioned in the other thread, their overall budget is basically equivalent to a rounding error...or less.

They are being used as a scapegoat right now.

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They are being used as a scapegoat right now.
I think that downplays how badly they handled this and how bad it looks on some of the things they did.

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It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... ince-2010/

Trump's beef with the WHO

https://bit.ly/WHOFactSheet

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It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.


Or maybe it's an indication of how little we have cared about these issues. We toss tiny amounts of money at programs that turn out to be more important than anyone thought.

The costs of these programs has not even been a blip when looking at the overall economy.

Spending a little more...and listening to the experts...just may have saved $Ts.

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It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.


Or maybe it's an indication of how little we have cared about these issues. We toss tiny amounts of money at programs that turn out to be more important than anyone thought.



And yet we still "care" more than the rest of the world.

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GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.


Or maybe it's an indication of how little we have cared about these issues. We toss tiny amounts of money at programs that turn out to be more important than anyone thought.



And yet we still "care" more than the rest of the world.


Good

And we still dont care enough

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GoldenJet wrote:
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It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.


Or maybe it's an indication of how little we have cared about these issues. We toss tiny amounts of money at programs that turn out to be more important than anyone thought.


It can be both I guess? I was not trying to take one side over another. Same can be said when people say they can't make it financially as they spend 3-8 bucks a day on Starbucks, smokes or anything else. They can't be convinced that it all adds up to the bigger budget trouble.

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pittmike wrote:
It is interesting in many of these discussions how the notion of it being just a rounding error is brought up. Or "that is such a small amount why bother". There are a lot of things like that all the time not just WHO, UN, Nato, military or any domestic support programs.

Shouldn't it be understood that all of the little bits all add up to our financial challenges? It isn't just the big ticket line items.


All of the "little bits" still add up to a little. If you removed all of the ones that you hated, we still have a substantial budget deficit.

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World health benefits us. The World Health Organization does not. There are all kinds of organizations that promote world health without the corruption of WHO.

Really for pandemics? Which ones? Why did the US choose to give here? When did you create this distrust of the WHO? Unfortunately, world health for something like this requires world input and participation. Other than funding what do we do at WHO? What is our world participation view right now?

Hawk wants this type of health security in the US. It's not a novel idea and a good one. Didn't we have this very research until three years ago at the CDC? Where is it now?

You can blame China all you want. You can say they orchestrated all this. I tend to agree. You are you also tellings me the US gave x amount of dollars to this corrupt organization that is designed to protect us from the very thing we now face...a pandemic, and we had nobody there to tell us the WHO was full of shit. And we had no backup plan to verify they were full of shit. And we have no internal organization that is either designed for or can communicate with other world powers regarding epidemics and or pandemics.

What are these other world health organizations doing now for this crisis that is clearly affecting our economy and the world's economy? Did we fund them? Did they have better Intel?

Sorry to Spaulding for cutting her quote...too many.


What actually has occurred puts lie to your contention that the WHO is necessary to protect us from pandemics. The WHO is just one of many corrupt UN subsidiaries.

There's a certain viewpoint among educated American "liberals". You know what it is. The people who post on social media about how "the rest of the world laughs at us." They may or may not be laughing, but they sure have their hands in our pockets.

Again, this isn't about U.S. leadership. It's about the U.S. footing the bills. That's what the rest of the world really wants. Give us your money and shut the fuck up.

As I said above, in the post WWII order, the United States had a responsibility, and more importantly the wherewithal, to do all of these things. And if it wasn't exactly appreciated, so what? We were going to be fine. That's no longer the case. We have unemployed drug addicts sitting around in small towns across the country while slaves in China do what used to be their jobs. But hey, an iPhone is only $600. Net gain! And that was before this pandemic hit.

You ever drive through one of those towns where the Maytag factory is long gone? The whole country may look like that soon enough. But by all means, let's make sure Tedros Adhanom can fly first class.


If you look from the day it was founded,there has been a very vocal minority in the U.S.A. opposed to the U.N. and its umbrella of organisations. The liberal/globalists in govt and the media have constantly made it a point to marginalize and limit their viewpoint to where in this day and age they mostly are seen as being Alex Jones types. Yet when you look at what they are saying it makes a lot of sense. If you look at the communities and governing bodies at the U.N. the way they are set up is insane. China was the chair on the human rights commission? The fact that Israel is comdemed every other month because of the sheer number of Islamic nations admitted to the General assembly. It is crazy How much the Us gives in total to all the various UN entities.

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