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Yeah. It has to be very frustrating for these scientists to have their cohorts in China not only withhold information but alter it to serve their political and economic interests. For too long this country has had very naive people within it that unfortunately believed that other countries and their leadership were moral and trustworthy even to the distrust of our own country in its dealings with them. And in this naivete I think these scientists were lacking the reality of how a totalitarian state will do everything possible to defeat its enemies politically, economically, and then militarily.

This same kind of shit went on with the naivete toward the evils of fundamentalist Islamic countries in which too many of the American people and too many of our leaders believed that they were just PEACEFUL Muslims and the same as Christian countries and leaders. How did that similar shit turn out?

Interesting facts about this stuff. When ISIS was raging in the world, Trump but in travel bans from terrorist laden countries and the Dems called him an Islamaphobe and fought him politically and in the federal courts some of which are still being appealed. When Trump put in a travel ban for Chinese traveling from China after he found out the lethality of the virus there, he was called a Xenophobe and a racist by Biden, Schumer, and of course, Pelosi.

So, you have to wonder about the Democrat Party itself. Whose side are they on anyway? I don't understand this really? We have been now attacked by two of the most autocratic laden people in the entire world. And the people contained in these two "countries have almost three BILLION people under their tight control. And the totalitarian governments apparently have a hidden ally in this country and that ally is called the Democrat Party. What the hell is the wrong with a good percentage of the American people?

The majority of the Muslim World wants us dead. China looks like it has taken a virus and made it a weapon to dominate the world. And while Trump is fighting the good fight against both, the Dems want him out of office to be replaced by a brain dead life-long Dem. PAthetic people, these Dems. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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All the idiots calling Trump a Nazi, and saying the China virus is racist need to watch this. China is carrying out it's own genocide right now:


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Uighur genocide is a real bind all around. For the right, denouncing the Chinese government's brutality requires defending Muslims, i.e., Uighurs, which they're usually loath to do. The far left, generally supportive of Muslims but more supportive of the CCP, sells them out by arguing that it's just a little job training being blown out of proportion by Saudi propaganda.

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‘Pack up and get out of there,’ Japan to spend $2.2 billion to get Japanese companies to exit China


https://tfipost.com/2020/04/pack-up-and ... china/amp/

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https://tfipost.com/2020/04/pack-up-and ... china/amp/


Yep. Abi is PISSED. Another interesting tidbit I heard on the news yesterday is that China after hearing about the outbreak on our carrier Roosevelt and its being taken out of service, dispatched one of their carriers to the South China sea and thereby dominate the sea lanes. This has always concerned Japan and the other far east countries and they have to be concerned .

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Any American company that doesn't do the same as Japan is committing treason and is abetting a regime no less amoral than Nazi Germany or the USSR.


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Any American company that doesn't do the same as Japan is committing treason and is abetting a regime no less amoral than Nazi Germany or the USSR.

I would agree with you 6 months ago. Hopefully I will agree with you in 6 months from now. We gotta find our footing though. There is nothing wrong with playing nice with a ball peen hammer behind our back. Gotta be smart about this.


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Any American company that doesn't do the same as Japan is committing treason and is abetting a regime no less amoral than Nazi Germany or the USSR.

I would agree with you 6 months ago. Hopefully I will agree with you in 6 months from now. We gotta find our footing though. There is nothing wrong with playing nice with a ball peen hammer behind our back. Gotta be smart about this.


Yeah. I do think that a whole lot of pressure will not be necessary for companies to come back from China. Between what the US will bring back and what Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines, and others will make, I'd say that China will be hit hard economically. Don't be surprised either if Russia doesn't get its share of the business.

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There were all sorts of government programs to sent industry to China. Need to do something similar here. I mean if you got pledges from Apple, Google, and Microsoft then you have enough to start a movement.

Just turn it into another Cold War. Free tuition for STEM majors. The new Space Race is to beat China to 5G, AI and other computing milestones.

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STEM majors that are the best, the brightest, and the boldest. Get PC out of science. Recruit the hackers. Don't throw 'em in jail.


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The Han Chinese is a menace to the planet and must be destroyed. Full stop, this is the great struggle of our times. They cannot be bargained or reasoned with, the Carthiginian solution is the only way.


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There were all sorts of government programs to sent industry to China. Need to do something similar here. I mean if you got pledges from Apple, Google, and Microsoft then you have enough to start a movement.

Just turn it into another Cold War. Free tuition for STEM majors. The new Space Race is to beat China to 5G, AI and other computing milestones.


China already has 5G.

Countries that sign up will basically be in the business of open sourcing their IT knowledge to China.

We should NOT be doing 5G in this country.

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Should also throw any country out of NATO who doesn't cut off Huawei entirely. Looking at the UK...


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Should also throw any country out of NATO who doesn't cut off Huawei entirely. Looking at the UK...

We already tried holding the UK's balls to the fire on this one and threatened to stop sharing intel with them. They still went forward with Huawei, maybe this China virus will get them to change their mind.

The US is seemingly the only major country that has wisely started building 5G without any Chinese hardware on the infrastructure.

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There were all sorts of government programs to sent industry to China. Need to do something similar here. I mean if you got pledges from Apple, Google, and Microsoft then you have enough to start a movement.

Just turn it into another Cold War. Free tuition for STEM majors. The new Space Race is to beat China to 5G, AI and other computing milestones.


China already has 5G.

Countries that sign up will basically be in the business of open sourcing their IT knowledge to China.

We should NOT be doing 5G in this country.

5G is fine, you just need to build it without Chicom hardware. The US is doing that.

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Should also throw any country out of NATO who doesn't cut off Huawei entirely. Looking at the UK...

We already tried holding the UK's balls to the fire on this one and threatened to stop sharing intel with them. They still went forward with Huawei, maybe this China virus will get them to change their mind.

The US is seemingly the only major country that has wisely started building 5G without any Chinese hardware on the infrastructure.

It looks like Germany will handle it domestically, too. Though nothing is official.

And sure enough I looked around to see if anything had changed when it came to Huawei in the UK and the British are reconsidering their involvement.


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Antarctica wrote:
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Should also throw any country out of NATO who doesn't cut off Huawei entirely. Looking at the UK...

We already tried holding the UK's balls to the fire on this one and threatened to stop sharing intel with them. They still went forward with Huawei, maybe this China virus will get them to change their mind.

The US is seemingly the only major country that has wisely started building 5G without any Chinese hardware on the infrastructure.

It looks like Germany will handle it domestically, too. Though nothing is official.

And sure enough I looked around to see if anything had changed when it came to Huawei in the UK and the British are reconsidering their involvement.

There is a real opportunity here to hold China's feet to the fire and break them. The only question is will we take it.

China sending defective masks and PPE throughout Europe might have been the last straw for many there.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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There were all sorts of government programs to sent industry to China. Need to do something similar here. I mean if you got pledges from Apple, Google, and Microsoft then you have enough to start a movement.

Just turn it into another Cold War. Free tuition for STEM majors. The new Space Race is to beat China to 5G, AI and other computing milestones.


China already has 5G.

Countries that sign up will basically be in the business of open sourcing their IT knowledge to China.

We should NOT be doing 5G in this country.

5G is fine, you just need to build it without Chicom hardware. The US is doing that.

Australia as well.

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There is a real opportunity here to hold China's feet to the fire and break them. The only question is will we take it.

I cant think of any easier way to get elected in America than demonizing a foreign power. And for once we finally have a foreign power worth demonizing! Its time to start to tighten the noose.


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Let's not be defending China:


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This is a good thread:


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China fed us a load of shit about their peaceful rise. How they anticipated the west and China rising a global tide that would lift all boats.

It was bullshit, calculated lying on the part of the PRC. We got caught up fighting the wrong enemy for two decades when we could have quashed the Chinese threat once and for all.


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China fed us a load of shit about their peaceful rise. How they anticipated the west and China rising a global tide that would lift all boats.

It was bullshit, calculated lying on the part of the PRC. We got caught up fighting the wrong enemy for two decades when we could have quashed the Chinese threat once and for all.


Yup

Oh, btw, it’s now fashionable to tell the truth about who was really duped by Russia...

Here’s what we know: The Obama administration opened an investigation into the Republican Party’s presidential campaign during a highly contested election predominantly using dubious evidence that was paid for by the Democratic Party — and that likely included Russian disinformation.

Catherine Herridge at CBS News, who has done notably excellent work on an issue few in the legacy media want to cover, reports that newly declassified footnotes show that the FBI relied on the DNC’s Steele dossier to secure warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, even though agents were warned multiple times that Russians had likely corrupted the evidence.

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Russia can do what they want. If they want to side with the Chinese fine, we can remilitarize Germany and menace the Russians with NATO. Meanwhile us and the Japanese, Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Australians and South Koreans lean on China. I doubt Russia does it, they love selling their natural gas and energy to the EU. Upsetting the apple cart of course has not stopped bad alliances (or even bad wars) in the past, but Russia has no Cold War scores to settle and probably is imperiled more by a hegemonic China than the USA is. The two border each other.

I want to be clear that I am not talking a shooting war or any sort of global conflagration. I am fairly certain that can be avoided as long as the USA maintains to current balance of power. From there we can blockade the PRC into famine.

I suspect this why Trump has stopped calling it China Virus. The DOD knows Trump is very unpopular among the coalition of the willing, they dont need him giving the PRC such an easy propaganda tool to use against the USA.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The Italian original https://youtu.be/HQQs3nl0LcY

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PRC Defense Force, loud & proud.


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Just pointing out they copied an italian ad, even down to the music.

Glad to see you're now aligning yourself with the SJWs of the world, troll.

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Would you deny that the Han are a particularly supremacist people?

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Would you deny that the Han are a particularly supremacist people?


Do you really think he knows anything about them

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PRC Defense Force, loud & proud.

GJ is adding to the criticism of China that they're thieves. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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You guys keep talking about Han Chinese.

What do you actually know about them, other than what Antarctica keeps pushing?

You geniuses want to obliterate the Han specifically, as if there is any difference between Han and Chinese.

It's right up there with obliterating Muslims from the world. Between the two, they make up nearly 50% of the planet's population.

MANY of you are also Trumpettes and America First isolationists. Nothing would make the Chinese and Russians happier than if we crawled into a shell and left Africa and the rest of the world open for them to plunder.

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