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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:03 pm 
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Yeah the goal posts have definitely been moved on this.


thats why im so pissed. they always admitted everyone will get it eventually. it wasn't about saving lives. it was about protecting overload of the health system.

they scambled to setup temp beds and ventilators. did that. now they claim they care about saving every last life. fuck the economy. You know what? It's been 10 years since the last depression. the middle class was starting to make profits (fuck that). just keep it shut down, fuck the value of everything so the rich who can afford it can buy up all the good shit for cheap again (like what happened in 09).

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:23 pm 
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I got a question. We saw police all over the country shut down Easter services and going after other Christian gatherings during Holy Week. Will they crack down the same was when Ramadan starts this week?

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chaspoppcap wrote:
I got a question. We saw police all over the country shut down Easter services and going after other Christian gatherings during Holy Week. Will they crack down the same was when Ramadan starts this week?


Not if they register first they probably won't.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:29 pm 
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I got a question. We saw police all over the country shut down Easter services and going after other Christian gatherings during Holy Week. Will they crack down the same was when Ramadan starts this week?


Nah, we didn’t really see that.


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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:56 pm 
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May 26th seemed like a reach for up her in Wisconsin. Just tacking on a month really seemed to piss people off. I honestly have not changed a whole lot about what I do. I can go to grocery stores and home improvement places, I’ve been going to the office 3 days a week. Really hope they can figure a way to start rolling open some places in the next ten days up here.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
I got a question. We saw police all over the country shut down Easter services and going after other Christian gatherings during Holy Week. Will they crack down the same was when Ramadan starts this week?


Nah, we didn’t really see that.


Forget it. He's rolling.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:16 am 
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My hope is that the tough talk about extensions going until the next leap day is to not get people complacent and have people having huge block parties because the lockdown is almost over. Pretty much all the Midwestern Governors seemed to have indicated that the lockdown can start to lift in May. I assume the stay at home order will become a lot less strict and basically stop really big events and some things that don't really hurt the economy like playgrounds and 5K's and schools.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:53 am 
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May 26th seemed like a reach for up her in Wisconsin. Just tacking on a month really seemed to piss people off. I honestly have not changed a whole lot about what I do. I can go to grocery stores and home improvement places, I’ve been going to the office 3 days a week. Really hope they can figure a way to start rolling open some places in the next ten days up here.


The new "badger bounce back" looks to be a decent plan. It is essentially undoing the shutdown orders in the exact same phases that they were given. The problem though is the absurd benchmarks he is using to pull the trigger on these phases. The 85,000 test per week capability is absolutely ludicrous considering we have done 51K over 5 weeks and haven't done more because we haven't needed to even though we can do more right now. He also wants a certain amount of PPE even though there isn't a number on it. There will be enough. They are churning that stuff out all over the place now. I think he put both of those benchmarks in so he can blame us not reopening on the president. In shocking news that was a bitch point of 3 high ranking WI members of his party yesterday.

He also has a requirement that new cases drop for 14 consecutive days. Our numbers have sat at around 150 new cases per day for damn near 2 weeks. I want the prison and nursing home numbers thrown out of that. If you did that right now our numbers would be trending down. Those people are isolated and the entire facility is being tested. If the CA antibody data is correct then these numbers are going to inflate the state numbers significantly.

If they make corrections for those 2 components of the plan then it would be ready to rock n roll on May 1st. Milwaukee is by far the worst area and the numbers having been dropping by the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
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T-Bone wrote:
May 26th seemed like a reach for up her in Wisconsin. Just tacking on a month really seemed to piss people off. I honestly have not changed a whole lot about what I do. I can go to grocery stores and home improvement places, I’ve been going to the office 3 days a week. Really hope they can figure a way to start rolling open some places in the next ten days up here.


The new "badger bounce back" looks to be a decent plan. It is essentially undoing the shutdown orders in the exact same phases that they were given. The problem though is the absurd benchmarks he is using to pull the trigger on these phases. The 85,000 test per week capability is absolutely ludicrous considering we have done 51K over 5 weeks and haven't done more because we haven't needed to even though we can do more right now. He also wants a certain amount of PPE even though there isn't a number on it. There will be enough. They are churning that stuff out all over the place now. I think he put both of those benchmarks in so he can blame us not reopening on the president. In shocking news that was a patriot point of 3 high ranking WI members of his party yesterday.

He also has a requirement that new cases drop for 14 consecutive days. Our numbers have sat at around 150 new cases per day for damn near 2 weeks. I want the prison and nursing home numbers thrown out of that. If you did that right now our numbers would be trending down. Those people are isolated and the entire facility is being tested. If the CA antibody data is correct then these numbers are going to inflate the state numbers significantly.

If they make corrections for those 2 components of the plan then it would be ready to rock n roll on May 1st. Milwaukee is by far the worst area and the numbers having been dropping by the day.


Down here in Kenosha cases seem to be climbing slightly but only 6 deaths in the county is pretty great. I wear a mask anytime I’m out in public and just used to it now. We’ve tried to order food from some favorite places to eat. We are fortunate that my wife and I are still employed and can work from home. We have friends that aren’t as fortunate and it’s really hurting a lot of people in the service industry with regards to restaurants and bars. If you weigh out the numbers it makes sense to start trying to slowly open things up. People will inherently start going outside more when weather improves so if they can do that while social distancing and wearing a mask for a while it’s a step forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:24 am 
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That is a really good point with the counts of cases/deaths in prisons and nursing homes needing to be looked at in context.

Of course it adds to the hysteria when the media can report that "25 people have died in the same building", yet fail to mention that 20 of them were over 60 years old, and 24 of them had major underlying health issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:26 am 
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The "common cold" has been shown to cause 5%+ mortality rates in nursing home settings.


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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
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My daughter works in a elderly long term residence as a CNA. It is depressing as hell. She said people just keep dying and aside from the toll that takes on her they do not know out of they were all definitely Covid or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Flattening the curve
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:32 am 
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That is a really good point with the counts of cases/deaths in prisons and nursing homes needing to be looked at in context.

Of course it adds to the hysteria when the media can report that "25 people have died in the same building", yet fail to mention that 20 of them were over 60 years old, and 24 of them had major underlying health issues.


That's because the media is no longer in the business of informing. They are in the business of sensationalizing...thank TMZ for that one. Unfortunately, MANY are too stupid to read past the headlines. The actual facts will get buried in the 8th paragraph of an article after a bunch of fluff quotes taken out of context to drive their hysterical point home. I'd lay odds if 10 people are scrolling through a news site, 4 or 5 drop out after the headline, 1 or 2 stop reading halfway...that leaves between 2 and 5 people reading all the way through...

One of my favorite things I've seen are reporters getting roasted for sensationalized bullshit, and responding indignantly because people are seeing through the crap.

If you don't believe state run media is a real thing, you really have blinders on.

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