Nah. You're presuming things without the benefits of facts. Krause specifically said that Jay Williams and Crawford would battle for spot when Williams was drafted.

Crawford also didn't have a great career either. He was a career backup mostly known for losing during the first half of his career. The Bulls got better the second they replaced him with Ben Gordon.

He called Chandler the next Garnett. Those were his words. He drafted 2 "Centers of the future" in the same draft. That's terrible.

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Will Perdue was also an instrumental pick. He help us get Rodman.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I believe the story was that Krause and Jordan were having an argument in which Krause declared "I discovered Earl Monroe," only for Michael to reply that Monroe was drafted second overall and if he hadn't discovered him, the next person would have.

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Plus, if a guy has a nickname based on his exploits before you met him, you didn't discover jack.

These were some of his draft picks.

1st pick Charles Oakley. Could have had Karl Malone.
2nd Pick Brad Sellers. Was supposed to take Dawkins but that was too much like right I guess. Brad Sellers was the laughingstock of the league.

3rd pick Pippen/Grant
88 Will Perdue. Bust
3 picks in 89 1st round
Lottery Pick Stacey King 6th overall Flop
B.J. Armstrong ok player
Jeff Sanders. Bust
90-98 not one player of note from any of those drafts besides Kukoc.


Not one free agent signing of notes during any of the championship years.

Ron Harper was vastly overpaid by the time Krause signed him to play for the Bulls. He was a shell of his former self.

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Yeah and Krause attended Bradley.. He didn't discover him he just convinced the Bulls to trade for him.

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Well this certainly makes me rethink his legacy.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Well if he wasn't really drafting and he wasn't signing free agents what exactly was he doing to surround him with all of this talent?

Who were these instrumental pieces?

I just ran his record down. Again they won with Krause and not because of him.

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Yes.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Drafted Oakley, traded him for Cartwright
Drafted Perdue, traded him for Rodman
Drafted King, traded him for Longley

Scott Williams was an UDFA.
Signed Paxson as a FA.

He did a great job surrounding Jordan with the type of players that would compliment him. Above-average GM.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

A decent GM who could not handle being in the background.

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These are the some of the names from that rather "terrible" 2001 draft.
Paul Gasol
Joe Johnson
Tony Parker
Gerald Wallace
Gilbert Arenas
Zach Randolph
Richard Jefferson
Jason Richardson
https://www.basketball-reference.com/dr ... _2001.html

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I'm going to say he has the highest adjusted shooting percentage in the history of the league. If not, he's close.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The 2000 draft was a pile of shit for the most part. Only three players ever made an All-Star team.

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The one with Chandler and Curry wasn't. He had the 2nd and 4th pick and missed on both

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All-star, DPOY, All-NBA, All-NBA defensive team, starting center on a NBA champ.

Damn good career.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Chris Paul saved his career. While with the Bulls he was considered a bust.

Much better players were drafted after him

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2001 sucked dick too.

Any dipshit can assemble a terrible roster and get high picks. We’ve had this discussion before and I’m never going to take you seriously whenever you present that as a skill. It’s particularly laughable when you’re defending breaking up the best dynasty in modern history to do it.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Took him about 10 years to attain any of that.

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2001 was better but not a ton. Taking two centers was dumb at the time. I cant really fault him about Randolph and Parker. Randolph went 19 and Parker went 28.

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Have at it.

These are the some of the names from that rather "terrible" 2001 draft.
Paul Gasol
Joe Johnson
Tony Parker
Gerald Wallace
Gilbert Arenas
Zach Randolph
Richard Jefferson
Jason Richardson

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Not a single superstar (#1 on a 'ship winning team) on that list.

Here is the thing. He constantly missed on players and a number of his guys were either flops or played better with other teams.

Joe Johnson
Pau Gasol
Tony Parker
Zeno Were all studs.
So was Arenas pre injury.
Richard Jefferson's career was better than Chandler's.

So was Battier's arguably.

Why didn't Krause ever ID these types of guys?

People keep referencing Pippen. Krause didn't ID Pippen. No one in the Bulls Organization did.

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You ever heard of Pau Gasol? Tony Parker has what 4 rings?

Chandler was a default All Star pick. Think he was a replacement for an injured guy.

His career can't touch the careers of the guys I id'd as studs. They led teams to the playoffs and Gasol has 2 rings and was a deciding factor in both. Single biggest reason the Lakers returned to championship status

Chandler was never anything more than a complimentary piece on any team that he has ever played on.

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Where did this come from? Never heard that

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Floyd told the story on a Louisiana radio station today.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

I still do not understand why Krause drafted Travis Knight in the first round then renounced the rights to him. Why didn't he take an overseas player?

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Keep hearing about how Krause surrounded Jordan with players who helped Jordan win Championships. It was a running joke how overmatched that supporting cast was during the first 3 championships.

If you look at what the Lakers surrounded an aging Magic with, Portland with Drexler and Phoenix with Barkley, it was no contest.

Their supporting cast was much better than the Bulls.

The game against Phoenix was a perfect illustration. Team only scores 9 in the 4th Jordan has all 9 til Paxson hits the 3. Yeah Krause surrounded him with pieces alright.

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