They would be a super team of future NBA talent. They aren't playing against guys fighting for a training camp invite for real.

This is an attempt to have a league of one and dones. Good luck.

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I know that you don't quite understand it so allow me to help you out a little bit.

The Gleague is and always has been a developmental league. Nothing more and nothing less. Their purpose is to prepare guys for the NBA. Of course it's going to be a league of 1 and dones.

Playing against the guys "struggling to make it as free agents" will be much more beneficial for they and the NBA than it will if they happen to play against Appalachian State.

There is much better competition at the Gleague level than there is at the college basketball level. NBA caliber high school players don't want to go to college for the most part anyway. You may get a few that blow this off but once they get up and running this will be the norm for those types of players.

Leave the NCAA experience to the Nojel Easterns of the world. Let the pro prospects be pro prospects.

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You need to read the tweet again. They don't intend for these guys next year to play against the G League in anything but exhibitions. If it goes well, then they want 4 or more teams consisting of players one year out of high school before they go pro. This is not players playing meaningful games against G League competition. This is basically the NBA creating a Euro style U19 team while the G League continues to feature above average college players who aren't yet ready to move on with their lives.



That's fine. I think it's great that high school seniors will have this as an option. If the NBA is willing to pay them half a million dollars to practice then good for them.

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The first post just shows that you don't know a thing about the Gleague. Every guy in the Gleague is trying to make the NBA. All of their games are technically exhibition. No one cares about winning that coveted GLEAGUE championship.

There will be Plenty of NBA scouts at every game that those kids participate in. That's means that they have meaning.

They will be able to evaluate them much better as players by having them play against men. There is no way they would get that by watching them play against crappy college competition. By the time the NBA draft rolls around the following year they will have had much more information about the kid than they will watching him blowout Georgia State.

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This seems quite arbitrary. I'm sure they care as much about winning as most high school and college kids care about winning at whatever level they are at.

But, if what you said is true, why not just throw this team of one and dones into the league next year as a new team? Why make their games not count in the standings.

That's true. What is your point? It's basically a year long tryout for the NBA. That's not exactly going to be compelling watching them play exhibitions against a team of above average college players who aren't currently good enough to sit on an NBA bench.

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Most the guys playing in college aren't even good enough to sit on a GLeague bench.

The games will be much more competitive because every guy involved will be attempting to impress an NBA team.

Gleague games are already ultra competitive as it is. Once you add in future pros they will become even more competitive. The kids down there will be much more motivated to play against men than they will be to play against the bums from IUPUI.

Real basketball fans understand this.

And the stuff about games counting is really rather laughable. Its developmental league. That's what is on the marquee.

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That's true, but that's because the G League in 2020 was going to have the same number of teams as the Big Ten and ACC combined.

You keep on moving the target. Now it's because NBA scouts will be there. NBA scouts are at college games all the time. That doesn't make the games more competitive.

I don't know why you are so defensive. The NBA doesn't seem to care about these guys playing in any meaningful games. That's why they won't have them play in a game that counts for any sort of league standings or championship. The goal eventually is to have 4 or more of these teams who play against each other. That's not something that is going to hurt college basketball in the slightest any more than just letting them go to the NBA would have.

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You aren't making much sense. It's your perception that the games are "meaningless". Obviously the people investing the money don't feel that way. They plan to get a ton of meaning out of it.

If you don't think that it will hurt college basketball then you are clueless as college basketball is already taking steps to prevent this sort of thing. Again the people intimately involved with this do not agree with you. Guess they don't know what they are talking about either.

As far as scouts attending college games it's not the same. The competition is much weaker in college than in the Gleague. As stated before 95% of the kids playing in college aren't good enough to sit on a GLeague bench.

You won't get much out of it because you aren't really a basketball fan. Ok it's not for you then. The Gleague avg about 4,000 per game without it being "compelling". The level of interest will shoot up once the guys hyped as "the Next Lebron" start participating it.

In the meantime you can continue to cheer on the Nojel Easterns of the world while it's going on

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It's not perception. They will not play in a game that counts for anything all year.

What steps are being taken to prevent this sort of thing? Remember, the NCAA actually kicked out Wiseman.

A G League team would beat most college teams. As I said, when you cut down from over a hundred programs down to 29 you will see an increase in talent.

I am a basketball fan. I prefer college.

However, let me point out once again that "the next LeBron" won't be playing for a G League team with a record that counts. He may play some practice games against them.

Ironically, guess who is likely to be a long time G League player if Europe doesn't give him more money? Nojel Eastern.

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I just looked at the G League All Star team equivalent.

https://gleague.nba.com/news/2019-20-midseason-all-nba-g-league-teams-unveiled/

All but a few of them were above average college players. Even my guy Dakota Mathias made the list, and he was the third or fourth best player on that team his senior year.

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Longterm GLeague player? No such thing. Guys can only play in the Gleague a maximum of 2 years unless it's been changed. Again you don't know what you are talking about.

2. There are only 1-2 programs that can compete with a typical GLeague team. Read Rich Paul's comments then get back to me.

3. Guys in the GLeague are their to be Pro Players. They aren't there to win the Sun Belt Conference. It's more important for them to impress an NBA team than it is to be the University of Detroit. That in of itself with make the games more competitive. If you think it will be a glorified scrimmage then again you're clueless. Again read Rich Paul's comments about the GLeague then get back to me

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Here is what a guy that gets paid to do this thinks regarding the Gleague. He made his call based on the caliber of the competition down there.
https://thesource.com/2018/10/23/darius ... ew-balance

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Are you sure? I know plenty of guys have played more than two seasons. Here is one.
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1627784/


That could be. I would guess it's higher than that given the rosters I'm looking at.

I don't know what to tell you. College players in general care greatly about winning their conference title. It's weird that you don't think they do.

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Here is one way the NCAA has tried to thwart this. If you don't think that it has something to do with moves made by people like Ball and Hampton and later on Wiseman then you are wrong.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... likenesses

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Rich Paul also convinced him that playing in the ACC wasn't in his best interest.

Again, look at that roster. That's the equivalent of the G League All Star team. Tell me again how those are elite college players.

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It is not an attempt to stop one and dones from leaving. Not even a little.

They did it because California forced their hand through legislation though it's ultimately the right thing to do.

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They can but guys that want to be professional basketball players mostly care about being professional basketball players. Their primary concern is to get paid. This will allow them to do it out of high school and I think it's great.

NCAA will be there for the guys like you that love it while these kids can concern themselves with making the NBA.

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Forced their hand how? They can still elect not to do it.
After all these years they all of a,sudden aren't opposed to it? I got a bridge to sell you.

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Did you see what Zion said about Duke? He wanted to go back as a sophomore though everyone, including Coach K, told him that was a dumb idea.

The good enough players are getting paid eventually. It doesn't hurt those chances to also want to win games in college.

That's why I'm not worried in the least about these guys not playing one season in college. It looks like you now get it.

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They forced their hand by making it impossible for the NCAA to have teams in California and not allow them to let players profit from their likeness. Even if the NCAA dropped all California teams other states were going to pass similar legislation.

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Obviously you are because you continuously comment about it. And you continuously crap on the pros and the Gleague too.

Kids always say that. Zion Williamson couldn't wait to turn pro. There hasn't been one player projected to go No. 1 overall that has returned for that 2nd year in at least 15 years. Oh yeah they just love it in college.

In each of the past 3-4 years first round draft picks have blown off college. That trend will only get worse.

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I am a college basketball fan so of course I'm going to comment on a thread title "Men's College Basketball" in the R.I.P. section.

The G League isn't good. It certainly isn't a threat to college basketball.

I think the NBA is great. It just isn't my thing. I fully understand why others care more about the NBA than college. I think you will have a hard time finding me saying negative things about the NBA as a whole outside of relatively minor criticisms that most people say.

Ok, but Zion also came back to play after nearly destroying his leg to try and win in college basketball. I think we can believe he really wanted to win more at Duke than he did. He was going to make hundreds of millions of dollars no matter what.

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This is the kind of arrogant condescension that keeps people out of the NBA Section and other basketball threads.

Give that shit a rest.

This ain't rocket science here.

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For the record Brick is one of the guys that repeatedly claims to hate the NBA. Really isn't all that out of line.
Guys wouldn't post there anyway. This site and MANY of the people here spend too much time trying to tell people how to post. People need to give that a rest. The NBA section here was a shitfest well before I started posting regularly.

merely mess with Rick and others that say the same thing to me about it. He doesn't take it to heart that's why I mess with him about it.

Nothing said on here is all that earth shattering anyway. It's just a message board.

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Can you name the last consensus No 1 overall pick that returned for his 2nd year? It doesn't happen at all these days.

Do you think he would have returned to school if Coach K didn't give him the go ahead?.

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I don't hate the NBA. I prefer college basketball. That's it.

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There is too much money being the #1 pick in the NBA for it to be worth for anyone besides those kids who are already rich.

I do believe him that he would have liked to return to Duke. However, the obvious choice was to go pro. As I pointed out, he returned back to play after an injury where he easily could have sat out the rest of the season. I do think he enjoyed college basketball and definitely wanted to win more than he did.

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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk. You're one of the "no one cares about the NBA" guys too. You say it all the time.

That's your choice and it's fine. It ain't for everyone.

Back to this. One of the things you continuously overlook is marketing. The interest in the Gleague will ramp up once they are provided with players that they can market. That always makes a difference. These kids will be marketed as the future stars of the NBA. This will force more people to take interest.

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There was no way Zion Williamson would have returned.

If you want to know how itchy kids are to get to the NBA all you have to do is chart the number of kids that have "reclassified" for the purpose of moving up a year. They do this so that they can be drafted a year earlier than whatever their draft class happens to be. R.J. Barrett' and Marvin Bagley are 2 that have gone this route in recent years

Kids that are no doubt pros are doing their best to blow off college these days.

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I do?

I say the NFL is far more popular because that's true. The NBA is pretty popular also.

They still have to play more than exhibitions against above average college players for it to matter. Is America going to get really excited to watch Isiah Todd play an exhibition game against the Fort Wayne Mad Ants?

As I've said all along with regards to the G League, if I want to watch professional basketball, why would I not simply watch the NBA rather than a bunch of guys who are fighting to be anywhere near as good as the last man in the rotation on the worst team in the league? That's why I'm saying this is the NBA trying to phase out the current G League and instead basically have a league comprised of a few teams containing the best 30 to 40 players who aren't yet eligible for the NBA draft. It's certainly a better plan but ultimately why would any average fan care when they could watch the best players in the world play rather than a guy they hope is the best player in the world 5 years later?

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