The most important component was Jordan. Krause had nothing to with that. If nothing else the doc illustrates just how incapable of really "building" the franchise that Krause happened to be.[/quote]

OF all of the stupid things that you have said on this board, this really is the worst. They do not win six championships without Pippin, Grant, Rodman and the cast of other players like Harper, Cartwright, Kerr, and Paxson. I'd say his acquisition of Rodman was the key in the last three championships. Clearly Krause built a team of excellent role players around Jordan, Pippin, and Rodman. Those three men were absolutely the best all around 1,2,3 combo in basketball all around. Arguably the best over-all player in the game. Arguably the best defender at his position in the game. And clearly the best rebounder in the game and one of the top five defensive big men in the game.

I have a lot of criticism of Krause for his failures to rebuild the Bulls but he certainly deserves a lot of credit for what he did in those six championships. It really should have been another 2 or 3 if Jordan hadn't gone on his baseball lark and Jackson hadn't pulled his pissy fit.[/quote]


If you remove Jordan then what do they win you damn idiot? It's also stupid to say that they couldn't win 6 CHAMPIONSHIPS without Cartwright, Grant, Rodman and Paxson Harper since THEY PROVED THAT THEY COULD WITHOUT EACH OF THEM at various times.
Somehow this fact slips by that addled mind of yours[/quote]

What a dopey thing to say. I was talking about the job Krause did which was a good one. Krause went out and got Pippin and Rodman, two legitimate HOFers and in Paxson and Kerr obtained two of the best spot up three point shooters ever in the game. BJ, Grant and Harper were good NBA players in their own right. Who brought them in?

So yeah, take Rodman and Pippin away, Jordan doesn't win six championships. In fact it is likely that he'd maybe win one or two with a different GM. Its all speculation but there have been cases of the best player(s) in basketball not winning multiple championships and sometimes not even one. I think about Karl Malone, Barkley, Wilt, Iverson, Moses, etc. All at least 1-3 as the best players in the game at their best. If a good GM doesn't put the right players and coach with him, he doesn't win multiple championships.

But as always you say stupid shit about someone for some stupid reason. Krause deserves a lot of credit for building the best team in the history of the NBA around arguably the best player in the history of the game. Many GMs failed with Wilt and other of the top players ever in the game while Krause succeeded.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Maybe. Maybe Jordan learned after he was done as a player that being a GM and an owner is not as easy a proposition as he maybe thought about it. Particularly under the new "rules" where players basically control pretty much everything and can dictate where they want to play and with who they want to play with. Frankly when the shit went down with Lebron going to Miami to play with Wade and what happened to the NBA after that, I pretty much stopped watching pro basketball. It unfair to the fans and cities who get screwed by the new rules.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Do you realize that both Kerr and Paxson were on their way out of the league before playing with Jordan saved their career? No one wanted either of them. Krause had to be talked into drafting Grant. He had to have his arm twisted in order to trade for Rodman. This despite the fact that everyone in the NBA knew that their hole at the 4 was as wide as the Mohave Desert. He wanted to whack Phil Jackson in favor of Tim Floyd.

The Krause post Championships is more indicative of what he was as a GM. By the time he checked out they were the laughingstock of the NBA. .

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None of this has anything to do with his essential point. No surprise there by the way.

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Gee. You just sound that you for whatever reason just hate Krause. But that pretty much sums up your entire poor ass saga on this board. Krause, despite what hate and unproven charges you deliver against him built the greatest team in NBA history. What he did afterward was a failure but he did succeed for a number of years no matter what your hate filled mind thinks about it.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Krause's biggest flaws were that he wanted acceptance from the team and people to acknowledge his role in putting the team together. If he would of just sat up in a suite with his mouth shut, there would have been a lot fewer issues.

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Here is the extent of what you contribute in every thread in which you partake. From here on in it will be nothing but a steady stream of this bullshit. You have no intention of actually addressing anyone's point. And now your drug addled bullshit has found it's way into basketball threads. What a fucking waste of airspace.

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He understood better than most that he would never get his due because of Jordan. That is why it was always important for him to win without him.

My issues were never really about his personality though. My problem was that the supporting cast that he surrounded Jordan with was always underwhelming. Jordan had to overcompensate for it far too often in order for them to win.

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You give me Jordan and Pippen and I think 2/3rds of the GMs out there can put together a championship team.

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"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas

Yeah it does. Why has Jordan not been successful as a GM and Owner of an NBA team? Why hasn't he been able to win a championship? You mock and despise Krause. Why, dipshit? You certainly are not anywhere near a bottom line fellow who appreciates and rewards success. Truth is that Mr. Jordan has not won on championship as a GM/Owner while Krause won 6 of them. Once again, Lurker, you fail as a sports analyst with very weak arguments regarding Mr. Krause and Mr. Jordan. Kind of similar to your ever so stupid political opinions.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Every criticism of Krause back then was met with a Walter Davis crack. As if that excused Krause and his then glaring shortcomings.

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Yeah. That's on point I think. Krause was far from perfect for sure. In the end, it was a big time clash of massive egos. Krause had a big one, Jordan had a huge one and Pippin pretty much followed Jordan in all matters and the ego of Phil Jackson was a massive one also. It almost had to destroy them as the greatest team ever assembled. But is sure was hell a lot of fun when it was all together.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Yes it was. He would throw out (or someone close to him) that Jordan wanted Walter Davis as a way of affirming his prowess as a GM. I can't recall what the asking price for Davis was at the time but I always thought he would have been a major get. Don't think it would have taken all that much either. Walter Davis was still ballin at the time Jordan wanted him

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Original thinking personified.

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It could not have been that underwhelming considering they won 55 games in 93-94. Were likely a Hugh Hollins call from making the finals again.

His Last six full regular season wins:

61
67
57
72
69
62

They payed one game seven during that time and never in the finals. How much better could they realistically have been?

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What's the matter with you, Lurker? I opined that Krause deserved credit for building the greatest team in NBA history and you decided to mock and minimalize him. I challenged you on it and you pretty much went ballistic as is your wont. Now once again you bring up lies about my supposed brain addled capacity. That really is proof of your basic inability to argue without vile accusations against the other party. I have PTSD. I actually talked to my psychologist today about a severe violent nightmare that I had on Saturday that was terrible and frightened my family when it happened. Want to mock that, asshole?

So, Lurker, fuck you. I cannot stand you as a "human being". There is literally nothing about you that is worthwhile.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

He definitely learned that being a great player is a different skill set than coaching, managing a team or owning a team.

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Is Sam Smith's The Jordan Rules a good read?

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

Also I disliked them trying to make Jordan into a social activist in the documentary.

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

Bullshit. The second three peat group was probably the best defensive five that ever played the game. And with Rodman coming on board, they added the best rebounder in the history of the game and one of the greatest big man defenders ever in the game also.

I remember very well the great and interchangeable defensive guys on the court, all 6'6" - 6'8" who would pressure the other offense and break them down. Jordan, Pippen, Grant, and with the big Cartwright in the middle being the intimidator. Then Grant left and they got Rodman in. What a defense. They actually got better defensively when they added Harper, but got better offensively also with Kukoc basically replacing BJ while adding Big Luke to replace Cartwright.

I think that the second three peat defensively was maybe the best over-all defense in history. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper and Luc in the middle were awesome. Krause also brought in some real tough junk yard dog types like Scott Williams who could play tough minutes and rough up people.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

You didn't need to throw yourself another one of your self financed pity parties in order for me to know that you are off your rocker and if you expect for me to empathize or sympathize with you I don't. You are a despicable and pathetic human being illness notwithstanding.

You have hatred in your heart for "other" people and as such whatever befalls your sorry ass will never be enough as far as I am concerned.

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But you remember it "very well". Sure you do.

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How pathetic is that?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Not pathetic at all. You are pathetic and each time you come around whining about PTSD you render yourself to be even more pathetic.

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As a third party here, I don't think The Hawk's PTSD has anything to do with Krause's ability to be a GM.

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"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas

His comments towards me had nothing to do with my thoughts on Krause's ability to be a GM either. He isn't much interested in that. He only seeks to wage silly ass personal vendetta campaigns all the time. Shit is old now.
He is a fucked up guy that seeks to make "other" people feel as fucked up as he happens to be. Guys like that are pathetic. PTSD or no PTSD.

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Reinsdorf put MJ in his place with that Walter Davis crap by asking him if he wanted a legacy like the slimy Isiah Thomas:

Bulls Owner Quieted Jordan - Star Player Wanted to Run Team

BTW, I just watched the leaked Episodes 7 & 8 (sorry, had to), and I am telling you that they are by far the best two episodes thus far. Great, great stuff.

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We Now Know That JOE BIDEN has been COMPROMISED by CHINA! (let that sink in)

Election 2020-The Largest Fraud in the History of Mankind.

*If you believe that Biden won, you also believe that Epstein killed himself*

I forgot about the dumbass Dennis Hopson deal too. Another guy Krause loved in college but never really added shit. Got nothing out of him the entire time he was on the Bulls nor would Phil even play him all that much.

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I think that's around the time Krause leaked that Jordan "ruined" guys

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I remember that too. He was trying to cover his own ass again.

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