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Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

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Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

Darko just needs people to argue with on the internet so he feels better about himself. He is a sad and lonely man. Chas needs to send him a hooker.

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Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

Darko just needs people to argue with on the internet so he feels better about himself. He is a sad and lonely man. Chas needs to send him a hooker.

Says the guy whose post before this one was picking a fight with frank about golfing.

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In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

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Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

Darko just needs people to argue with on the internet so he feels better about himself. He is a sad and lonely man. Chas needs to send him a hooker.

Says the guy whose post before this one was picking a fight with frank about golfing.

Now he jumps in defending his buddy Frank’s temper tantrum. Keep it up Darko! You’re doing awesome!!!

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In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

:lol:

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They are a private business and should be able to place whatever restrictions they want right?


Yes as long as it doesn’t violate civil rights laws. But then we all have the right to shop elsewhere. That’s what this is about.


Agreed.

It's not that hard.

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Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

Darko just needs people to argue with on the internet so he feels better about himself. He is a sad and lonely man. Chas needs to send him a hooker.

Says the guy whose post before this one was picking a fight with frank about golfing.

Now he jumps in defending his buddy Frank’s temper tantrum. Keep it up Darko! You’re doing awesome!!!

:lol:
Wow.

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In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.

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Darkside wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
Bmac, I thought we were on the same page and in agreement?

You were. Like I said, evidence is mounting that bmac might be of low mental fortitude.

Darko just needs people to argue with on the internet so he feels better about himself. He is a sad and lonely man. Chas needs to send him a hooker.

Says the guy whose post before this one was picking a fight with frank about golfing.

Now he jumps in defending his buddy Frank’s temper tantrum. Keep it up Darko! You’re doing awesome!!!

:lol:
Wow.

I know. It sucks for the you and Caller Bob’s of the board to have somebody back who won’t back down to your shit.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.


Complete irrelevance and ridiculous deflection isn't a new thing for a trumpet.

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bmac, you don't have any clue what you're talking about. You can not back down to whatever you want but you're really starting to look like a fool. So keep not backing down and making that more and more clear.
You looked like an idiot when you attacked frank over the governor and the legislature signing off on his executive order thing earlier but you were far too dumb to understand it.
And in this very thread you actually completely 100% misinterpreted denis' post and made a fool of yourself going after me for absolutely no reason.
Now you're doubling and tripling down on it. So please, keep on not backing down.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.


Complete irrelevance and ridiculous deflection isn't a new thing for a trumpet.

Perhaps Jorr was illustrating the illusion of safety aspect in the conversation. For example, a sneeze can send germs to a distance of 26 feet, more if aided by say and outdoor wind. If you're standing in a line outside a store keeping a distance of 6 feet, the 6 people immediately around you can certainly spread this to you with a sneeze. And you may be standing next to those people for several minutes waiting to get in. So is that really safer than allowing 40 people spread out around a 2000 sq ft store? Probably not, especially since masks are really only required indoors.
So waiting outside can be interpreted as only an illusion of safety and not truly something that will prevent the spread of disease. Honest to me, it seems like liability mitigation more than concern for the safety of the customers.

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Darkside wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.


Complete irrelevance and ridiculous deflection isn't a new thing for a trumpet.

Perhaps Jorr was illustrating the illusion of safety aspect in the conversation. For example, a sneeze can send germs to a distance of 26 feet, more if aided by say and outdoor wind. If you're standing in a line outside a store keeping a distance of 6 feet, the 6 people immediately around you can certainly spread this to you with a sneeze. And you may be standing next to those people for several minutes waiting to get in. So is that really safer than allowing 40 people spread out around a 2000 sq ft store? Probably not, especially since masks are really only required indoors.
So waiting outside can be interpreted as only an illusion of safety and not truly something that will prevent the spread of disease. Honest to me, it seems like liability mitigation more than concern for the safety of the customers.

But that's an argument for further restrictions and not less. It's not like the answer to metal detectors at sporting events is to do nothing and accept that bombs will kill people there.

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Perhaps he was just whining. As usual.

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Darkside wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.


Complete irrelevance and ridiculous deflection isn't a new thing for a trumpet.

Perhaps Jorr was illustrating the illusion of safety aspect in the conversation. For example, a sneeze can send germs to a distance of 26 feet, more if aided by say and outdoor wind. If you're standing in a line outside a store keeping a distance of 6 feet, the 6 people immediately around you can certainly spread this to you with a sneeze. And you may be standing next to those people for several minutes waiting to get in. So is that really safer than allowing 40 people spread out around a 2000 sq ft store? Probably not, especially since masks are really only required indoors.
So waiting outside can be interpreted as only an illusion of safety and not truly something that will prevent the spread of disease. Honest to me, it seems like liability mitigation more than concern for the safety of the customers.


Of course it’s about liability mitigation
Anyone now who so much gets a sniffle while in line at Home Depot now could sue, so of course they want to be able to say what numerous precautions they took, regardless of whether those measures actually do anything


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Regular Reader wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In my experience waiting outside ends up taking about the same time I would wait in line to check out. I'm sure at times it is worse though but maybe I've been lucky.


I think the point was, you are trying to avoid crowding and close interactions inside a store but instead end up with the exact same thing outside the store.


It's like the lines to get through the metal detector before a Sox game. If someone wanted to wreak havoc he could just blow up the bomb in the line and he'd probably kill more people than if he did it inside the ballpark.

I'm going to say that analogy doesn't help your case here.


Complete irrelevance and ridiculous deflection isn't a new thing for a trumpet.



Are you trying to show the board how deranged you are? I don't even know what you're talking about. Somehow you manage to work Trump into every conversation. It's weird.

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But that's an argument for further restrictions and not less. It's not like the answer to metal detectors at sporting events is to do nothing and accept that bombs will kill people there.



It's an argument against safety theater.

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But that's an argument for further restrictions and not less. It's not like the answer to metal detectors at sporting events is to do nothing and accept that bombs will kill people there.



It's an argument against safety theater.

So you would remove all security procedures from all sporting events because none are 100 percent effective?

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Of course it’s about liability mitigation
Anyone now who so much gets a sniffle while in line at Home Depot now could sue, so of course they want to be able to say what numerous precautions they took, regardless of whether those measures actually do anything


I'm not sure how this would work from a Constitutional standpoint, but I think I read Congress was working on legislation that would bar lawsuits brought pursuant to COVID.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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But that's an argument for further restrictions and not less. It's not like the answer to metal detectors at sporting events is to do nothing and accept that bombs will kill people there.



It's an argument against safety theater.

So you would remove all security procedures from all sporting events because none are 100 percent effective?



For at least half of my life there were no "security procedures" at baseball games other than an Andy Frain looking at my ticket, maybe.

I understand that safety is a much higher value for you- and I believe for most people around your age- than it is for me. Obviously your opinion is holding sway in our society.

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Of course it’s about liability mitigation
Anyone now who so much gets a sniffle while in line at Home Depot now could sue, so of course they want to be able to say what numerous precautions they took, regardless of whether those measures actually do anything


I'm not sure how this would work from a Constitutional standpoint, but I think I read Congress was working on legislation that would bar lawsuits brought pursuant to COVID.

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But that's an argument for further restrictions and not less. It's not like the answer to metal detectors at sporting events is to do nothing and accept that bombs will kill people there.

I would disagree with you on that. I believe that its an argument that humans do not have even a tiny bit of control over nature that we like to think we do. This thing is going to spread at 6 feet. Its going to spread at 20 feet technically. Or more. Can humans really stay 26 feet away from each other?
Anything less than an n95 mask will allow the virus to spread both ways through the mask.
The virus can live for hours or even days on certain surfaces. So the gloves that the checkout gal is probably not wearing doesn’t prevent the spread of the virus from the last customer who picked it up and set it down or the guy who stocked it the morning you were there.
All in all a lot of this is about the illusion of safety. Making people feel like they're safer. But you're not really any safer. Not by much.
Using jorrs example if a deranged crazy wanted to clip a few hundred people at a ballgame he would just do it outside the park rather than in it.
We love illusion of safety in our world. We love knowing that if we crash into the ocean at 400 mph on a transatlantic flight we can use our seat cushion as a floatation device. We love knowing that the movie theater has a no guns sign on the door so we know no one can bring one in if they wanted to hurt people. We don’t mind TSA screenings and tsking our shoes off even though we know that the TSA misses most contraband during internal spot checks. We have convinced ourselves that its safe to order a ride on the internet from a complete stranger who literally may offer you candy when you get in the car because he has a 4 star rating.

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So get rid of all security at sporting events?

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So get rid of all security at sporting events?

Security is important. You have to have staff that can remove someone who is causing problems. Youve got to be able to keep people off the field. You might need to break up a grandmother fight if you're at an Eagles game.

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bmac, you don't have any clue what you're talking about. You can not back down to whatever you want but you're really starting to look like a fool. So keep not backing down and making that more and more clear.
You looked like an idiot when you attacked frank over the governor and the legislature signing off on his executive order thing earlier but you were far too dumb to understand it.
And in this very thread you actually completely 100% misinterpreted denis' post and made a fool of yourself going after me for absolutely no reason.
Now you're doubling and tripling down on it. So please, keep on not backing down.

That’s all you have isn’t it? When somebody shows you or your lover how dumb their statements are you have to project.

Going after someone for no reason? What the fuck are you even doing posting in this thread then? Oh wait you replied to RR after this post to cover your ass. :lol:

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So get rid of all security at sporting events?

Security is important. You have to have staff that can remove someone who is causing problems. Youve got to be able to keep people off the field. You might need to break up a grandmother fight if you're at an Eagles game.

Still not 100 percent effective though.

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So get rid of all security at sporting events?

Security is important. You have to have staff that can remove someone who is causing problems. Youve got to be able to keep people off the field. You might need to break up a grandmother fight if you're at an Eagles game.

Still not 100 percent effective though.

And what possibly could be?

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So get rid of all security at sporting events?

Security is important. You have to have staff that can remove someone who is causing problems. Youve got to be able to keep people off the field. You might need to break up a grandmother fight if you're at an Eagles game.

Still not 100 percent effective though.

And what possibly could be?

Deleting your account?

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Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So get rid of all security at sporting events?

Security is important. You have to have staff that can remove someone who is causing problems. Youve got to be able to keep people off the field. You might need to break up a grandmother fight if you're at an Eagles game.

Still not 100 percent effective though.

And what possibly could be?

That's the point.

...and scene.

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