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No fall semester in California.


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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:07 pm 
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There are no state schools in the PAC-12.


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There are no state schools in the PAC-12.


Stanford and USC are the only private schools in the conference.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
There are no state schools in the PAC-12.


Stanford and USC are the only private schools in the conference.


Cal state is different than university of California.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
There are no state schools in the PAC-12.


Stanford and USC are the only private schools in the conference.


Cal state is different than university of California.

But it's only a matter of time until Cal and UCLA follow.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
There are no state schools in the PAC-12.


Stanford and USC are the only private schools in the conference.


Cal state is different than university of California.

But it's only a matter of time until Cal and UCLA follow.


Or the myriad of lawsuits that would follow.

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Everyone knows those Cal pussies will quit. UCLA is rich people so they will fight.


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Everyone knows those Cal pussies will quit. UCLA is rich people so they will fight.

UCLA vs. LA County will be an interesting fight.

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California keeping ahead of the corona curve

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At least they're being honest and giving students plenty of time to make other arrangements/take a gap year/maybe attend a less expensive local or on-line school.

Unlike 70% of colleges claiming they're going to be holding in-person classes in the Fall. 169% attempt to bully students into paying deposits and getting that tuition committed and then they'll go "shite, sorry y0, guess we can't let 1000's of people from all over the globe congregate in close-quarters, dine in community dining halls, sit elbow-to-elbow in classrooms just yet...who could've predicted...anyhow

Thanks for the tuition, here's a link to download Zoom for those classes you're paying out the ass for and maybe going into debt for the next decade to be able to afford
. Happy e-learnin'!"

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The best part is when you click on that you see that LA county is planning on "stay at home" for the next 3 months. They're never gonna let us out of this shit.

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There is no reason the basic gen ed 100-200 level courses can't be done on-line. Geology 101 doesn't require students to be in an actual classroom.

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Franky T wrote:
There is no reason the basic gen ed 100-200 level courses can't be done on-line. Geology 101 doesn't require students to be in an actual classroom.

But if you are going to do them on line, you may as well take them from a cheap JUCO that has an agreement to transfer credits in full to your intended university.

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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Franky T wrote:
There is no reason the basic gen ed 100-200 level courses can't be done on-line. Geology 101 doesn't require students to be in an actual classroom.

But if you are going to do them on line, you may as well take them from a cheap JUCO that has an agreement to transfer credits in full to your intended university.

Are you implying that my Zoology class for my Computer Science major was not really that needed and kind of stupid to require?

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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Franky T wrote:
There is no reason the basic gen ed 100-200 level courses can't be done on-line. Geology 101 doesn't require students to be in an actual classroom.

But if you are going to do them on line, you may as well take them from a cheap JUCO that has an agreement to transfer credits in full to your intended university.

I agree, and this has always been the case.
With very few exceptions, the undergrad "Gen Eds" can be taken anywhere and they all count the same as taking them at a university.

More to you point, almost all public universities will accept the credits in whole as long as you get your AA/AS as a complete degree before transferring to the 4 yr school.
In fact, many universities give preference to those students when it comes to class/program selection - you are a proven college student that is less likely to negatively affect the overall success/graduation rate of the university.
They don't even look at the individual classes compared to what they would have been at their own school...they just take your GPA and take you in and move on.

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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
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We still pretending this affects young healthy people in any way?

Doesn't college quarantine young people anyway? Dorms?


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Nardi wrote:
We still pretending this affects young healthy people in any way?

Doesn't college quarantine young people anyway? Dorms?

Listening to ESPN this morning in the car, it sounded like the concern was more about the staff than the students. Lots of 50+ faculty and poor people in cleaning and food service roles.

But really, I think it's more about administrators out-abundancing their peers.

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Nardi wrote:
We still pretending this affects young healthy people in any way?

Doesn't college quarantine young people anyway? Dorms?



The average age of a college professor at an American college:

55

Dunno if you're aware, and it seems crazy to have to explain this to anyone who has been following along with the whole pandemic thing at all but:

just because you don't get sick from coronavirus you can still be a carrier and infect other people

College students sometimes have these things called families. And oftentimes these families have people who are not college students, or even college student aged in em. (I know, crazy innit?) Lil Jasper and Lulu go off to college, mingle with people from all over the USA and maybe even the world, pick up the coronavirus and become asymptomatic carriers and then come home to visit family on the weekend/Thanksgiving/Christmas break and bring dat rona back home with them.

Difficult to think of a better way to spread dat rona out than (i) bring a bunch of potential carriers who don't get sick when exposed to corona or even show symptoms (2) have them eat, sleep, work, play, study in close proximity to one another and then (3) asymptomatic corona carriers return home all across the country to unsuspecting families and bring the gift of COVID-19


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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
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Everyone knows those Cal pussies will quit. UCLA is rich people so they will fight.

USC is even wealthier.

Schools in Orange County and San Diego will resist this big time.

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Hussra wrote:
Nardi wrote:
We still pretending this affects young healthy people in any way?

Doesn't college quarantine young people anyway? Dorms?



The average age of a college professor at an American college:

55

Dunno if you're aware, and it seems crazy to have to explain this to anyone who has been following along with the whole pandemic thing at all but:

just because you don't get sick from coronavirus you can still be a carrier and infect other people

College students sometimes have these things called families. And oftentimes these families have people who are not college students, or even college student aged in em. (I know, crazy innit?) Lil Jasper and Lulu go off to college, mingle with people from all over the USA and maybe even the world, pick up the coronavirus and become asymptomatic carriers and then come home to visit family on the weekend/Thanksgiving/Christmas break and bring dat rona back home with them.

Difficult to think of a better way to spread dat rona out than (i) bring a bunch of potential carriers who don't get sick when exposed to corona or even show symptoms (2) have them eat, sleep, work, play, study in close proximity to one another and then (3) asymptomatic corona carriers return home all across the country to unsuspecting families and bring the gift of COVID-19

I never thought we would see hussra on team 'Imma pussy'.

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I'm fully on-board with sending Boomer children/grandchildren out to hook up with rona and bring her back home to meet mom and dad and give grandma and grandpa big ol COVID-19 hugs. I don't think in a political climate where Boomers rule everything that's gonna happen. Not for something as non-essential as in-person college, when you can replicate 50 to 80% of the experience remotely. And not when in order to make in-person college work you have to put a bunch of tenured Boomer professors and other faculty and staff at risk.


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Its a nightmare keeping students off their phone now in classrooms. Imagine how much they'll pay attention online.

Its a joke, you think you salvage 50% of learning but you wind up doing nothing. None of the knowledge seeps in, maybe the diligent ones learn enough to pass the test but they wont remember shit they learn on the puter. The retention rate of even in-person learning is pretty low long-term.

Its a cheap replacement. Part of this silly modern notion that "Oh, tech will fix it!" when in reality technology is often flawed and unusable in our modern world.


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I don't think the plan is to replace in-person college with e-learning ad infinitum. It's a one or two semester provisional stop-gap; until they have sufficient grasp of C19 not to have to quarantine students for 2 weeks on the way into campus and then for 2 weeks again on the way out any time they want to visit their families over breaks. Plus the expense and overhead of constant corona tests for students and faculty.

For what? 10 to 14 weeks of in-person classes? Classes many students will skip attending even if given the chance and watch the recording online in their dorm room anyhow.

The people running the colleges and universities know that things won't be so much better in 60 to 90 days that they can start allowing students to return to campus, esp with the prospect of a 2nd corona wave combined with flu season looming in the Fall.

And yet they are sending out letters and emails and text messages reminding students to pay their deposits to secure their place in class, allocate their FinAid to the college, upper class students signing leases for fall now on the false promise that there will be in-person classes starting in August.

It's fraudulent bullshit.


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 Post subject: Re: Pac-12
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:27 am 
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Hussra wrote:
Nardi wrote:
We still pretending this affects young healthy people in any way?

Doesn't college quarantine young people anyway? Dorms?



The average age of a college professor at an American college:

55

Dunno if you're aware, and it seems crazy to have to explain this to anyone who has been following along with the whole pandemic thing at all but:

just because you don't get sick from coronavirus you can still be a carrier and infect other people

College students sometimes have these things called families. And oftentimes these families have people who are not college students, or even college student aged in em. (I know, crazy innit?) Lil Jasper and Lulu go off to college, mingle with people from all over the USA and maybe even the world, pick up the coronavirus and become asymptomatic carriers and then come home to visit family on the weekend/Thanksgiving/Christmas break and bring dat rona back home with them.

Difficult to think of a better way to spread dat rona out than (i) bring a bunch of potential carriers who don't get sick when exposed to corona or even show symptoms (2) have them eat, sleep, work, play, study in close proximity to one another and then (3) asymptomatic corona carriers return home all across the country to unsuspecting families and bring the gift of COVID-19

Apparently there are no choices but to infect every old person in the nation by the mere act of attending school. There are guidelines that can be followed. Sweden's perhaps. By hiding all you are doing is dragging out the timeline.

It seems crazy that to have to explain this to anyone who has been following along with the whole pandemic thing at all. Herd immunity. Look it up you condescending prick of a coward.


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