I apologize for insulting your head.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Can we move on to discussing something other X-Pac? Christ, even LTG can ruin a wrestling thread.

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Honestly. Who fucking cares about X-Pac's place in wrestling history? Can't overrate someone no one cares about.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

While I consider you to be somewhat funny at times your thoughts on anything of substance can hardly be considered illuminating Douche.

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I been thinking about other people I would consider overrated. One that came to mind is Kevin Sullivan. I know he has had an impact in the behind the scenes stuff, but I just never cared for him in the ring.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Individuals that fail to see the significance of "dangerous" "woke" Twitter posters perhaps?

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That’s a good one. The older he got, the rougher it was to watch him.

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I thought he had some good matches with Cactus Jack and the Benoit feud also brought some great stuff. But the 3 faces of fear and then Dungeon of Doom run against Hogan was just a booking abortion.

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I was going to throw that one out too but just couldn't bring myself to do it. Sullivan had a lot of juice but never did much in the ring. I caught him a little later while he was in his upper 30's so I always tried to take that under consideration. He was much better in Luche Libre and I guess the Florida promotion than he ever was in WCW.

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Demolition.

The talk about DX got me thinking,almost all of the stables in wrestling history where formed to cover one anothers weakness and help push just one or 2 at most. The Horsemen with a couple of exceptions where all great performers who could and where successful on their own.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Michael P.S. Hayes was overrated.

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Based on what?

He wasn't a good technical wrestler, but he got over and could draw in the South.

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Demolition is a good one. Just a cheap imitation of the Road Warriors and there were several better tag teams in the WWF at that time.

Michael Hayes was not good in the ring and I think just about everyone agrees with that. But his work on the mic and talking people into the seats was up there with just about anyone. The Freebirds were a perfect villain for the Von Erichs. They had the tough dude that could go in the ring in Gordy. They had Buddy who was like a little rat, but could do quite a bit in the ring. And then there was Hayes would go do all the talking and had all the charisma.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

But that is the point. This isn't about whether guys "got over" or received a push. Its about guys that received the pops and pushes but really weren't all that deserving as they stunk as wrestlers.

There was never a guy more over than Hogan but he put on some of the shittiest matches that I have ever seen. Particularly in the WWF incarnation of him.

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Ok just trying to gauge the criteria since it seemed to shift a little.

It then gets into what's the point of pro wrestling? Being the best in ring worker or being the best character/promo?

The guys who draw money historically since the wrestling boom have been the characters. As you say, a Hogan match was nothing to write home about. But the man was the biggest draw ever. Can't really say he was overrated.

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I don't care about the business side of it. I didn't profit from watching it so for me it was always about the best in ring worker. It's not a tough criteria to master either.

Either you think the guy was worth the hype or you don't. In Hogan's case he was a terrible worker. Some of the worst matches ever for an All Time Great.

Case in point.
https://youtu.be/zUoSZrxxksE

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Look at this fucking guy...

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Mongo McMichael should have mentioned sooner. Whoever in WCW decided to make that happen should be finger poke of doom'ed to death.

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He never rated. He sucked.

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No one ever considered him to be good though.

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They put a couple belts on the guy, but yeah, he was trash. Maybe the worst worker I have ever seen.

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Lex Luger.

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He got a decent push though.

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Sullivan/Dusty in Florida was one of the great feuds ever.

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"I give you my word as a Biden"

Never had the privilege of seeing any of that. In those days Dusty against anyone was great from what I have heard. Need to get on youtube and check out some Sullivan and Dusty stuff

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I wouldn't call him overrated as a wrestler (I'd say he's average), but Drew McEntyre's claymore kick might be the most overrated finisher I have ever seen. It's just a terrible attempt at a dropkick. Get that weak shit out of here.

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The people's elbow strongly wants you to reconsider this position.

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And the "Superman" punch.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Well yeah, but was The Rock ever slaying top heavyweights with the People's Elbow? The move was more of a joke and usually just a setup for a Rock Bottom.

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Lex Luger. No promo skills, couldn't wrestle, great look.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."