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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:54 am 
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This wasn’t much of a superhero capeshit movie.

I found it to be more about mental illness, and how society can throw these people aside.

Exactly, but they had to adorn it in stupid comic book bullshit. It ruins it. If this were just a movie that depicted all the young white men who feel left behind by society it would've been brave and interesting. A movie nobody has the courage to make and a brooding crisis that few seem to recognize or treat as legitimate.

Instead its an origin story for a superhero villain. Great, who cares.


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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:58 am 
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It was critically acclaimed.

Made over a billion at the box office.

Joaquin won every award he could for his role.

I think it’s safe to say MANY people cared.

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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:02 pm 
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Jbi11s wrote:
This wasn’t much of a superhero capeshit movie.

I found it to be more about mental illness, and how society can throw these people aside.

But it was there. If you want to make a serious movie, make it a serious movie.


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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:06 pm 
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Nardi wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
This wasn’t much of a superhero capeshit movie.

I found it to be more about mental illness, and how society can throw these people aside.

But it was there. If you want to make a serious movie, make it a serious movie.

I think the subject matter was pretty serious.

This guy wasn’t some diabolical genius like he is in the comics.

He was a proto incel who eventually lost his marbles because society failed him.

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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:09 pm 
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Jbi11s wrote:
It was critically acclaimed.

Made over a billion at the box office.

Joaquin won every award he could for his role.

I think it’s safe to say MANY people cared.

Yea these low-brow idiotic movies print money. We all know that.


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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:11 pm 
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I’m just saying people cared.

I thought it was a better acting performance than a movie.

I also never got the big super hero/villain payoff that in retrospect would have cheapened the movie.

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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:15 pm 
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Jbi11s wrote:
I’m just saying people cared.

I thought it was a better acting performance than a movie.

I also never got the big super hero/villain payoff that in retrospect would have cheapened the movie.

The very fact that comics were involved at all cheapened the movie.


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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:16 pm 
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Nardi wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
I’m just saying people cared.

I thought it was a better acting performance than a movie.

I also never got the big super hero/villain payoff that in retrospect would have cheapened the movie.

The very fact that comics were involved at all cheapened the movie.

Yes, but you don’t like comic book movies, so what are we doing here?

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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:31 pm 
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Jbi11s wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
I’m just saying people cared.

I thought it was a better acting performance than a movie.

I also never got the big super hero/villain payoff that in retrospect would have cheapened the movie.

The very fact that comics were involved at all cheapened the movie.

Yes, but you don’t like comic book movies, so what are we doing here?

Talking about the seriousness of the movie


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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:39 pm 
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MANY thought it was serious enough.

Some didn’t.

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 Post subject: Re: Joker
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:00 pm 
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Jbi11s wrote:
MANY thought it was serious enough.

Some didn’t.

Ok, Batman. Next movie will be Robin raping the commissioner's daughter. VERY serious.


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