Was there any talk of Phil going somewhere else and Michel following? I am sure you could of swung a trade for Pippen and filled in the role players around him.

Its all just speculation. But I do not think that Kemp was the guy that they wanted really. First of all, Kemp was lazy and I think that Jordan would have hated that. I think that if there was a re-build, that someone like McGrady would have been the guy to trade for. I also think that Jordan would have absolutely wanted Rodman on that team because I think after all the bullshit is thrown out there about Rodman, it was Jordan that controlled the Worm because Rodman greatly respected Jordan. For all his warts, Rodman, I think, was more valuable than Pippen in the last couple of years of the Bulls reign. When on the court, no one was more focused on his job than was Rodman.

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Its all just speculation. But I do not think that Kemp was the guy that they wanted really. First of all, Kemp was lazy and I think that Jordan would have hated that. I think that if there was a re-build, that someone like McGrady would have been the guy to trade for. I also think that Jordan would have absolutely wanted Rodman on that team because I think after all the bullshit is thrown out there about Rodman, it was Jordan that controlled the Worm because Rodman greatly respected Jordan. For all his warts, Rodman, I think, was more valuable than Pippen in the last couple of years of the Bulls reign. When on the court, no one was more focused on his job than was Rodman.

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I just finished the last two episodes tonight. I forgot how injured Pippen was towards the end. I think Krause was correct. Pippen, Longley, Rodman, and Harper were all washed up.

Im going to binge watch all 10 again.

I seemed to really like Tony Kukoc after watching this. I wasnt a big fan of his when he played but now it's like I really enjoyed watching him back during those Bulls years.

Yeah, I don't even think contracts could be reworked under that CBA.

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Wasn't the Kemp/Pippen trade rumor occurring at the '94 draft?

The Pippen for McGrady pick was the rumor prior to the '97 draft.

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She's still a decent looker. I know my taste in women is a lot looser than it used to be, but I'm always impressed with an older lady who still looks pretty enough to make me wonder what her nasty side looks like.

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Howard Stern/David Spade today about MJ on SNL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm161gQp53A

Too bad they didnt have a little bit about Johnny Red Kerr in the doc.

His BULLS WIN calls were a big thing especially nationally.

They couldn't renegotiate his contract per the 1995 CBA deal the players signed.

It's interesting that Jordan didn't seem all that opposed to playing with Shawn Kemp when the Kemp for Pippen rumors were out there. I'd have thought with all of the success he'd have fought more for Pippen to stay.[/quote]

Jordan is a terrible judge of talent and team building.[/quote]





They wanted him for the 97-98 season though. He was Seattle's best player when he was on top of his game.

Don't know about the Jordan fit either but I just found it odd that he was open to trading for him.[/quote]

Wasn't the Kemp/Pippen trade rumor occurring at the '94 draft?

The Pippen for McGrady pick was the rumor prior to the '97 draft.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Heard a few weeks ago on the radio that Scottie for Kemp was a go of Krause got the 12th pick and his guy there( Eddie Jones) or Jalen Rose.

Seems like a good trade for Chicago either way.. Who do you think was a better player.. Rose or Jones?

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Definitely Eddie Jones. Rose was a loser.

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Interesting..i always liked em both, solid pros

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It still bothers me that obviously something happened between them and Johnny Bach for them to almost completely omit him from the series.

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I'm taking Rose.

Eddie Jones. You match him with Jordan and you have something more than Harper, but a bit less than Pippen.

Jalen Rose's no defense playin' ass wouldn't have lasted a year on MJ's Bulls.

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1995- Pat Riley is hired to be coach and president of the Heat.
1995- Flip Saunders becomes both coach and GM of the Timberwolves.
1996- Greg Popovich establishes himself as coach/VP/GM of Spurs.
1996- Mike Dunleavy Sr. had already been coach/VP in Milwaukee the last few seasons.

Summer of 1997:

- Rick Pitino becomes coach and president of the Celtics.
- Don Nelson named coach and GM of Mavericks.
- Larry Brown hired to be coach and director of basketball operations by the Sixers.

No question Phil Jackson wanted more power. He was jealous.

Watched the final two episodes last night. Great series. I especially liked the behind the scenes stuff- on the bus, at practice, with the security, locker room, etc. Gave an insight to the team dynamic that really nobody outside of the those involved had any idea of.

Pearl Jam to end it was an awesome touch as well!

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I don't remember Jones playing D.. Just knocking down shots..kinda like Rose..probably a slightly better 3 point game than Rose though.

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My memory of Jones is kinda hazy, but I believe that he was a competent defender. Jalen Rose was justified a guy who wanted to score and was a team loser.

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Eddie Jones was an elite defender and competent scorer. I believe his career high was 20 or 21 ppg when he got traded away from LA to make room for Kobe. Jalen was the better scorer and maybe the better playmaker but that's it. Jones is the better player.

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Jalen could play multiple positions. He had a post-up game. Nice post-up fade too.

That's great and I agree, but the problem was Jalen gave up as much as he scored. Give me Eddie Jones all day.

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Maybe Jordan would've made Jalen play D.

I think what was lost during the 93-94 season was how much of a fucking asswipe Pippen was prior to May 13th of 1994.

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Kobe dropped 81 on a lineup that included Rose. He sucked

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Kobe, one of the best scorers in the history of the NBA, put up 81 points on a 27-55 Toronto Raptors squad. That Raptors starting lineup included Morris Peterson and Matt Bonner.

Was Rose ever an important player on a winning team?

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