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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Nope. The acquisition of Rose was another in a number of bad moves made by Krause. He gave up quite the haul for the No D playing gunner from Michigan.

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Research indicates Jalen was the principle victim of Kobe's 81 point game. KB dropped 22% of the 81 on Jalen on 54% shooting, Peterson was next with 20% on 46% shooting. Next was fast break/transition (18%).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN6nvau6xNw

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Those pacers teams were good.

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They were great. He was just a guy though.

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GO BEARS!!!

He was their Ron Harper.

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22%? Shit. 22% of his 81 was from FTs. He put up 50 shots that game. Kobe took 30+ shots that whole season because nobody else was on the Lakers. He was going to get his.

I'm still confused why when talking about Jalen Rose's defense -- the first thing someone brings up is Kobe. One of the greatest scorers ever in the NBA. How many people could guard Kobe?

Ron Harper on the Bulls?

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Rose wasn't that good

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Yes.

Like a 4th or 5th guy.

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Well he's generally regarded as a turnstile and Kobe's game is indicative of that. Kobe is a great scorer but he's not the first - plenty of people can put the ball in the bucket, but no one in however many years put up as much as Kobe did. Not the 7 foot Shaq who in his prime could dunk on Godzilla at will, not Hakeem, not Jordan, not LBJ, etc. It's still basketball man - just because you can score doesn't mean putting up 81 is still conceivable. Especially when you're average height for the NBA (6'6 isn't anything special). Why can Bruce Bowen or Shane Battier hound Kobe into 9-31 shooting nights for 37 points while 6-8 Jalen Rose gets 81 dropped on his head? Because he sucks and never tried hard on defense.

My bias here in case it isn't obvious is defense. If you don't try hard on D then I don't give a shit about you. Rose was in that category for me. No value add if you can score 21 in a breeze but your guy hits you up for 25 on 70% shooting.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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A really fun interview of the light-skinned assassin, Reggie Miller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINgzy3fmLk

Ho Grant big mad.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/291 ... nahJXsy3ik

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I don't have a problem with that. The doc confirmed two things: MJ is a winner. But he's also a petty b.itch.

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Was just listening to J. Hood walk us through the recap....interesting. I'd say Jordan is more pissed about Horace beating him in '95 than with Horace talking to Sam Smith.

If you read this article from Sam "The Man" Smith from 1989 it becomes apparent who the snitch happened to be. It was none other than that snake Phil Jackson. Backdoored Doug Collins for the gig and dropped all of that bullshit about Jordan too.
He was the one that always tried to make it seem like Jordan wanted Doug gone. Documentary proved that this was false.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html

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I think my favorite Jordan quote ever was from the end of ep7. Just before he needed the break, they discussed if he was a tyrant.

"When people see this they're gonna say - he wasn't really a nice guy. He may have been a tyrant. Well, aah, that's you - 'cuz you never won anything."

That's all you need to know about MJ.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I read the article. Please feel free to quote where it was apparent that Jackson was “that snake”.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Its obvious who the source for the info happened to be. To hear Sam Smith tell it everyone hated Doug. From Jordan on down. Who do you think was feeding him? Might have been Krause or Tex but my money was always on Phil.

His leaking of insider info didn't come out to years later when he was much more established as a coach but he started much earlier with the Bulls.

Think about this. Who benefitted most for making it appear as if Jordan wanted Doug out?

Who was the guy that gravitated towards Tex? Who everyone knew back then was worshipped by Krause?

If you read this particular article you would have thought Doug was a rambling buffoon. You would thought he was Jim Boylen circa 1989. Who do you think stands to benefit the most from this particular perception?

No doubt it was that snake Phil.

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So you can’t quote anything from the article you cited that proves the point you said was apparent.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Stop that nonsense. 81 all on Jalen? We say that because Jalen is on ESPN. Lazy narrative. Nobody remembers the other players on the 27-55 Toronto Raptors. Watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9NILK4OXpo

P.S. Kobe put up 45 against Battier that same year and Battier fouled out

Kobe put up 50 against Iguodala shooting 66% a few weeks prior to his 81 performance.

Getting to that shortly.

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It sounds like he pissed off Reinsdorf. It reminds me a lot of why Reinsdorf got rid of Larry Himes.

No doubt about it. It was Phil "That Snake" Jackson.

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They were great. He was just a guy though.[/quote]

He was their Ron Harper.[/quote]


ya pretty much. maybe a little better than ron harper but Jalen Rose was not a superstar or even close to the level as even Reggie Miller.

I'd say he would be one notch up on Steve Kerr but 2 notches below Shawn Kemp.

If you read this article you wouldn't think Doug Collins knew a damn thing about coaching. Who benefits the most from it? You guessed it Phil "The Snake" Jackson"

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Here you go Zippy. Irrefutable evidence that Phil "the Snake" Jackson was up to no good with old Doug Collins

And now the smoking gun.


There is no doubt that this came from Phil. Maybe Krause but I doubt a player. Too much inside coach speak. Horace was a 2nd year player. Would he have been privy to all of that stuff? Nope.

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i just heard Horace grant on the am 1000 podcast.

Horace should be building a shrine to MJ. If it wasn't for MJ nobody would know who the fuck horace grant was. he'd be some guy who super basketball fans would have known played in the 90s in the NBA.

If he really despises MJ, then give MJ all that money MJ made for you Horace!

But Horace was always a nice guy. I got to give him that. I always felt he really enjoyed his time in the league but that rant by him was too much. Good publicity though. I guess people remember him now who weren't bulls fans.