If you think it was a General Fron Germany then you are even more clueless than first thought.

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This was addressed 2 days ago but I know in your haste to pump out your next talking point you may have glossed over it.

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Also this is kind of a willful distortion of the premise of this thread. The parallels between the Soviets and PRC are really limited to atrocities. I'm pretty sure the USSR would be appalled at Chinese "communism".

The much stronger comparison is to Nazi Germany, as the Chinese use ethnic determinism to suck in unwilling neighbours like HK and Taiwan. Also, like the Nazi's, they are anti-ideology at their core. Which to me is actually a redeeming quality most of the time but in these rare instances gives the impression of an emotionless blob. Not to pluck such an apt metaphor, but the Chinese really are like a virus. They only exist to multiply and spread.

Meanwhile the Soviets, despite being intolerable, did have some soul. There's a reason for the nostalgia people have who lived under the boot of the USSR.

Except as the Soviets swallow more of their bordering satellite states the definition of "neighbour" expands. This is kind of the whole point of American foreign policy during the Cold War, it was to prevent this sort of incremental expansion of the USSR.

And even then as we've established the Soviets propped up many a communist movement around the world. Angola, Mozambique, Cuba, Rhodesia-Zimbabwe, DRC, Benin (just to name a few of the successful ones). And not even to take into the account their support of Maoism, which kind of faltered when the Gang of Four fell but still Maoism certainly wouldn't have prospered to the extent that it did without the Soviets at their back.

I can't handle the suspense any more. Who's the architect of the cold war?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

My guess is he'll say Churchill.

Yeah, or Ike. Or both.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Eh, Ike is almost too close to the truth for LTG to say him. Certainly the most overrated president ever and pretty shit during and immediately after the war.

That and the neoliberalism and austerity that we imposed on them under Yeltsin took years off their life expectancy.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Yeah his ignorance always shows up. It somehow is always about skin color. His unhealthy obsession will likely lead to an early death.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Tell that to Poland and Finland. And generations later to Afghanistan. The United States also had treaties with most of the Soviet Union's neighbors, but they are not a threat.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Woe to the vanquished.

The same fate awaits us if we dont stomp out China while we still can.

Now wishing an early death on people. Classy. The next non-ignorant, non-trolling comment you make towards me will be your first.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I didnt wish death on you and death would be too easy for you. I've tried for years to have a non confrontational dialogue with you in an attempt to better understand your way of thinking. The same way I do for pretty much everyone around here. Your irrational rage and ignorance makes that virtually impossible.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Poor snowflake WFR.

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Guess you never heard of what happened during Able Archer '82 or this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

To quote Jonny Ringo, "Tou really are just an ignorant rech arn't you?"

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Oh and your talk about the USSR not going to war only in defense, um there numerous authors who state that from mid 1940 Stalin was getting prepared to attack Hitler before old Adolf got the drop on him.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

No he wasn't. You're making up shit again.

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Stalin was too busy purging the officer class to declare war on Germany. They certainly weren't prepared for Barbarossa, its well known Stalin locked himself away and had a mental breakdown once the Germans started encircling all his armies at Smolensk and Kiev.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

I got some articles from Military History sites but I know you will not read them so this is all I am gonna give you.
Once again, you show your ignorance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

Oh and LTG, the German I was talking about was Reinhardt Galen. Look him up,you might learn something new.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I don't which propaganda sites you run out there. I you are a damn joke. I will have a million more which says Stalin wanted no part of Germany. He signed a non aggression pact that he didn't violate by the way. However as usual you know differently. Sure you do.

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How stupid are you really?

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Allow noted historians Chas, WFR, Or Antarctica to explain it to you since their thoughts have so much currency around these parts. Let's see if they can explain provide info which wasn't provided to them by PJ media for a change.

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Neither.

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Bulgaria didn't border the USSR yet they suffered under the Marxist-Leninist Zhivkov government basically until the end of the Cold War.

The USSR rolled tanks on both Czechoslovakia and Hungary. Both technically did border the USSR but that's only because Transcarpathia was inexplicably given to the Ukrainian SSR under the dubious claim that the Kievan Rus held it for a negligible amount of time back in the middle ages (it was distinctly Hungarian, well what was left of it after the war).

Then you have East Prussia, which to be fair was another menace to world peace but still the outright annexation of Koenigsburg (which continues to this day) is a feat of naked territorial greed that would be considered inconceivable to the American left if it were perpetrated by the US governemnt. That's where LTG's little Zinn ideology falls apart on any sort of closer examination. The USA, historically, is not without its misdeeds but judged against their peers of the time the American government has behaved with extraordinary restraint and lack of ambition.

So each of you 3 (Chas, WFR, And You) proceed to tell me that the Soviet Union is a threat to the U.S. because they invaded CZECHOSLOVAKIA and you wonder why I believe that you are completely out to lunch on this.

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I will relay your message to people on Central Europe that their lives are worth nothing and any aggression against them does not count for the purposes of LTG's worldview.

The propaganda continues. Sort of stuck whenever you have to deviate away from it aren't you?

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