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Cant help but notice neither of them are wearing masks. They both wouldn't be allowed in Costco!

Hey B Mac, do you think heaven has an Applebee's?


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Idk I read on Twitter from internet liberals that people without masks deserve to die of the rona so it looks like the officer just skipped the middleman. Of course he's not wearing a mask either so those wanting the cop to meet a similar fate will get their wish too!


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Idk I read on Twitter from internet liberals that people without masks deserve to die of the rona so it looks like the officer just skipped the middleman. Of course he's not wearing a mask either so those wanting the cop to meet a similar fate will get their wish too!

Like I just pointed out, you didn't seem to have a problem with the heavily armed cosplay guys screaming an inch from a cops face. Why didn't blue lives matter then?

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You can't run away or continue to be aggressive if you are in handcuffs?
Did I say that? I said when the guy was handcuffed and knelt upon he was no threat to anyone.
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You have a link to the official coroner's report?
Did I say that? I said according to the link Nas posted...
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This is you being aggressively obtuse about something where we only know a portion of the story.
I would say you are being aggressively obtuse by avoiding my questions to you and by putting words into my mouth. The portion of the story the matters is the death we actually see on video. The alleged crimes that may or may not have happened beforehand do not matter in terms of the video posted.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.

I believe one day they'll figure out just how wrong they are.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.


It's a waste same faulty premise. Same tired conclusion.

Might as well fire up the drinking game whenever "deep thinker" WFR uses this line.

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If you think the officer was looking for a black man to kill that day it's an incredible accusation that should be backed up with facts.


He uses this Dr. Philesque psychobabble bullshit each and every time.

It's simply his way of minimizing and deflecting away from what actually happened.

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That's a good sign that he's breathing.

Are poor people predisposed to commit crimes and use drugs? Has science identified that gene? These things are allowed to happen because the people who do have a voice remain silent because these abuses of power don't happen in their communities.

The power you give to government and people in power the more they'll take. Eventually these things will find their way in all communities. We're seeing how irate MANY are with 10 weeks of government putting their thumbs on the scale in all communities.

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fucking nazi shit right there. what the hell happened to our cops in this country! not all but some of these guys should have never been cops.


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if a lawyer really wanted to make an impact, they could sue the bystandards for not doing anything.

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if a lawyer really wanted to make an impact, they could sue the bystandards for not doing anything.


If police don't have a duty to rescue you then bystanders sure as shit don't either.

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if a lawyer really wanted to make an impact, they could sue the bystandards for not doing anything.


Attacking the police so bullets can fly would definitely make things better.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.
:roll: Yeah, we shouldn't question when someone distorts reality to the point of claiming that when a crowd is screaming at and approaching officers, while members are threatening to hit those officers, that the crowd is acting "calm". I guess we really shouldn't question when someone claims that the officer enjoyed himself while someone died, with absolutely no proof whatsoever aside from "he put his hand on a car for balance".

Let's not question anything, ever! Let's just be outraged about the most wildly inaccurate characterizations we can think of, ALL THE TIME!


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You can't run away or continue to be aggressive if you are in handcuffs?
Did I say that? I said when the guy was handcuffed and knelt upon he was no threat to anyone.
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
You have a link to the official coroner's report?
Did I say that? I said according to the link Nas posted...
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
This is you being aggressively obtuse about something where we only know a portion of the story.
I would say you are being aggressively obtuse by avoiding my questions to you and by putting words into my mouth. The portion of the story the matters is the death we actually see on video. The alleged crimes that may or may not have happened beforehand do not matter in terms of the video posted.


When he was being knelt on he wasn't a threat. Maybe that wasn't the case earlier. That's the entire point. What happened prior to the video matters. The other part of this is the perception that this happens all the time. That's not supported by anything that I have seen. The idea that you are better off not going to the police because they will just kill you is why dozens of people get shot every weekend in Chicago.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.

I believe one day they'll figure out just how wrong they are.


:lol: They are wrong. They are bad.

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The other part of this is the perception that this happens all the time. That's not supported by anything that I have seen. The idea that you are better off not going to the police because they will just kill you is why dozens of people get shot every weekend in Chicago.
I have said nothing about any of this in the thread here.

Reply to the video and questions I have asked at hand, or don't reply at all.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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You can't run away or continue to be aggressive if you are in handcuffs?
Did I say that? I said when the guy was handcuffed and knelt upon he was no threat to anyone.
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You have a link to the official coroner's report?
Did I say that? I said according to the link Nas posted...
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
This is you being aggressively obtuse about something where we only know a portion of the story.
I would say you are being aggressively obtuse by avoiding my questions to you and by putting words into my mouth. The portion of the story the matters is the death we actually see on video. The alleged crimes that may or may not have happened beforehand do not matter in terms of the video posted.


When he was being knelt on he wasn't a threat. Maybe that wasn't the case earlier. That's the entire point. What happened prior to the video matters. The other part of this is the perception that this happens all the time. That's not supported by anything that I have seen. The idea that you are better off not going to the police because they will just kill you is why dozens of people get shot every weekend in Chicago.

If you want my trophy that bad you can fucking have it. Jesus man. Take a week off. It's like the racist painter came back on steroids.

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That's a good sign that he's breathing.

Are poor people predisposed to commit crimes and use drugs? Has science identified that gene? These things are allowed to happen because the people who do have a voice remain silent because these abuses of power don't happen in their communities.

The power you give to government and people in power the more they'll take. Eventually these things will find their way in all communities. We're seeing how irate MANY are with 10 weeks of government putting their thumbs on the scale in all communities.


There are more murders and gun violence in poorer communities. And there are more police as a result. When you say things like this are allowed to happen- I don't think they are anymore. Hence the media coverage. It's a chicken or the egg type of argument. I believe police run-ins are a roll of the dice. You are going to eventually meet a bad one or one having a bad day. Your actions during the encounter are going to affect how you are treated. If you start a physical confrontation with a cop there is a good chance it's going to end up poorly.

Frank suggested that he did not care how much it cost during the shooting in Dallas. Ok. How much more in taxes would you pay to attract the best possible police and more training?
Are you certain that even if you paid say $10k a year more that the outcomes would be all that different?

As Jorr has suggested the only sure way to end policing errors is to do away with the police. Would that make communities safer?

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Frank suggested that he did not care how much it cost during the shooting in Dallas.
Stop putting words into my mouth.

Either quote me or shut the fuck up.

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The other part of this is the perception that this happens all the time. That's not supported by anything that I have seen. The idea that you are better off not going to the police because they will just kill you is why dozens of people get shot every weekend in Chicago.
I have said nothing about any of this in the thread here.

Reply to the video and questions I have asked at hand, or don't reply at all.


You don't get to dictate the question and the direction of discussion to a narrow and boring area of does the video look bad. Do you think the video is a reflection of society? How often does something like this happen?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Frank suggested that he did not care how much it cost during the shooting in Dallas.
Stop putting words into my mouth.

Either quote me or shut the fuck up.


Quit being a such a baby about this. You literally said you did not care if it cost $10 million. If it saves only one life! But you also want lockdown to end. I can look it up if you are this upset over it.

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You don't get to ask me questions when you ignore these and continue to lie about what I have said. Answer, quote, or STFU.
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Why did the officer need to restrain him?
He was already in cuffs.
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Was he being a danger to himself or others?
At the time the officer was kneeling on his neck? Absolutely not.
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Had he broken out of restraints before?
Do you know anyone that has "broken out" of handcuffs?
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What was the cause of death?
According to the link Nas posted, a blocked airway.
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You don't know anything of the above.
You appear to not know anything about anything, or you're just being willfully ignorant to the fact that a cop killed a guy who was on the ground and handcuffed.
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If you think the officer was looking for a black man to kill that day it's an incredible accusation that should be backed up with facts.
Please quote the post where I accused this officer of "looking for a man" to kill. Black, White, or otherwise.
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This looks like an error rather than a conscience decision to kill someone.
An error in which a presumed innocent man was killed by a cop. As for the italics, see above.
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We'll see what the investigation and the body cams footage reveals.
The body cam will reveal bystanders pleading with the cop not to kill the guy.

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I don't know why you guys even bother with WFR, Juice, America on topics like this. Denis said all that needed to be said on the bottom of page 1.

3 boot licking cocksuckers named right there

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Do you think the video is a reflection of society?
I think the video is a reflection of how police officers abuse their power and often make harmful decisions then ask questions later. This does not apply to all police or all situations, but it happens far too often.
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How often does something like this happen?
Far too often.

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It's really sweet watching Frank getting his panties in a bunch because somebody won't quote him :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wow..again, this is why we cheer dead cops

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