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I know your wife thinks drop ceilings are ghetto....grow a pair....she won't spend any time in the finished basement, anyway. The aggravation of trying to fix a wiring problem when the ceiling is drywalled is infuriating, laborous, and expensive.

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I know your wife thinks drop ceilings are ghetto....grow a pair....she won't spend any time in the finished basement, anyway. The aggravation of trying to fix a wiring problem when the ceiling is drywalled is infuriating, laborous, and expensive.


Leave the drop ceiling out as well and add some sound proof insulation.

Paint black, gray or navy blue and you have the open loft look.

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BigW72 wrote:
I know your wife thinks drop ceilings are ghetto....grow a pair....she won't spend any time in the finished basement, anyway. The aggravation of trying to fix a wiring problem when the ceiling is drywalled is infuriating, laborous, and expensive.


Leave the drop ceiling out as well and add some sound proof insulation.

Paint black, gray or navy blue and you have the open loft look.
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That is actually what my wife would prefer

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BigW72 wrote:
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I know your wife thinks drop ceilings are ghetto....grow a pair....she won't spend any time in the finished basement, anyway. The aggravation of trying to fix a wiring problem when the ceiling is drywalled is infuriating, laborous, and expensive.


Leave the drop ceiling out as well and add some sound proof insulation.

Paint black, gray or navy blue and you have the open loft look.
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That is actually what my wife would prefer


You married up.

Give thanks.

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BigW72 wrote:
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Leave the drop ceiling out as well and add some sound proof insulation.

Paint black, gray or navy blue and you have the open loft look.
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That is actually what my wife would prefer

Complete the look by going to the center of the basement and hanging a single Hershey's Kiss.

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Do not install anything that interferes with the full-size Golf Simulator.

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When finishing a basement, the entire electrical access system may need to be completely redesigned.

An elite electrician will home run virtually everything.

A lazy electrician will install junction boxes everywhere they penetrate down from above.

I finished a basement a few years ago for a client...there were something like 25 junction boxes in the basement ceiling. Would have looked like shit with an access panel for every one. Cost about $5k to rework everything back over to the service panel.

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Do not install anything that interferes with the full-size Golf Simulator.


Thankfully the wife could've cared less. When I got a mount for a heavy & speed bag, I found that I didn't have more than six inches to spare.

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Do not install anything that interferes with the full-size Golf Simulator.


Thankfully the wife could've cared less. When I got a mount for a heavy & speed bag, I found that I didn't have more than six inches to spare.

Nice. If we ever meet up at a Board Outing, I'll be looking for you to have my back.

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Regular Reader wrote:
I found that I didn't have more than six inches to spare.


Preach to the choir Brother Reader

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I found that I didn't have more than six inches to spare.


Preach to the choir Brother Reader

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GoldenJet wrote:
When finishing a basement, the entire electrical access system may need to be completely redesigned.

An elite electrician will home run virtually everything.

A lazy electrician will install junction boxes everywhere they penetrate down from above.

I finished a basement a few years ago for a client...there were something like 25 junction boxes in the basement ceiling. Would have looked like shit with an access panel for every one. Cost about $5k to rework everything back over to the service panel.



That is brutal. I run the home runs straight up from the panel and into the attic and then drop down to the individual rooms. I have had to clean some of that crap up on a few jobs where they were finishing the basement and drywalling the ceiling. Lets splice the living room 3 way in the ceiling of the basement because that seems like a good idea.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
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When finishing a basement, the entire electrical access system may need to be completely redesigned.

An elite electrician will home run virtually everything.

A lazy electrician will install junction boxes everywhere they penetrate down from above.

I finished a basement a few years ago for a client...there were something like 25 junction boxes in the basement ceiling. Would have looked like shit with an access panel for every one. Cost about $5k to rework everything back over to the service panel.



That is brutal. I run the home runs straight up from the panel and into the attic and then drop down to the individual rooms. I have had to clean some of that crap up on a few jobs where they were finishing the basement and drywalling the ceiling. Lets splice the living room 3 way in the ceiling of the basement because that seems like a good idea.


It doesn't really take much longer to do a clean, thoughtful layout.

A clean job with nice, tidy homeruns is a thing of beauty.

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GoldenJet wrote:
When finishing a basement, the entire electrical access system may need to be completely redesigned.

An elite electrician will home run virtually everything.

A lazy electrician will install junction boxes everywhere they penetrate down from above.

I finished a basement a few years ago for a client...there were something like 25 junction boxes in the basement ceiling. Would have looked like shit with an access panel for every one. Cost about $5k to rework everything back over to the service panel.
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My Dad was an electrician, so I'm a bit snobby when I look at aftermarket electrical jobs. This is romex slopped everywhere and there's no shortage of junction boxes. The drywall work is very good, but again.....you can't do that to the ceiling. I have no access to install outlets or run cable.

We did get some background on the former owner. We bought it 1+ owner from a foreclosure. The family that originally had the house ran into family money: In-ground pool, big shed, sprinkler system, basement finished, excessive landscaping, hardwood floors, video surveillance.....they dropped a ton of cash into extras. Doesn't mater how much you add to the house....if you don't pay the taxes or the mortgage, it gets yanked from you pretty quickly.

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Never thought I'd walk right into a thread where two black guys are complaining about being disappointed in the sizes of their penises, but there's a first for everything I guess!

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teenage kids can't hide stuff in the trellises when you drywall

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good dolphin wrote:
teenage kids can't hide stuff in the trellises when you drywall


Cross bridging?

Is this a drop ceiling term?

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This thread would be in bigfan's wheelhouse.

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Drop ceilings come in all sorts of styles and most of them look amazing. Don't buy cheap drop ceilings.

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BigW72 wrote:
I know your wife thinks drop ceilings are ghetto....grow a pair....she won't spend any time in the finished basement, anyway. The aggravation of trying to fix a wiring problem when the ceiling is drywalled is infuriating, laborous, and expensive.


We don't have the headroom in the city to drop a ceiling.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Nothing good comes from drywalling an entire basement ceiling.


Only a sparky wines about buried boxes.

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I used the Armstrong ceiling system that mounts directly to the bottom of the floor joists above- no drop at all- to maximize basement headroom AND provide access. It's not as easy access as a dropped grid, but can be accomplished with a ton of patience and a crick in your neck.

We were pouring a new basement floor and wanted to grade right even with the wall footings, but the inspector would have none of that and forced us to pour over the footings, so we lost a potential for three and a half more inches of headroom.


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I used the Armstrong ceiling system that mounts directly to the bottom of the floor joists above- no drop at all- to maximize basement headroom AND provide access. It's not as easy access as a dropped grid, but can be accomplished with a ton of patience and a crick in your neck.


That's what I used and it's great...until you need to move or replace a tile--then it becomes like those tile games where you only have one open space and need to slide them around to form a picture.

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My ceiling is drywalled. I'll take a sledgehammer to it this weekend.

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My ceiling is drywalled. I'll take a sledgehammer to it this weekend.


Mine as well.

I'm troubled my wife confided in BigW

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Drywall with can lights is a good look I think. Is there any other lighting option for drop than cold fluorescent tube?

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i guess if you're a midget or if you have a new home w/9 foot basement you can put a drop ceiling in. my house came with a finished basement w/drywalled ceiling. the dope who owned before me drywalled the ceiling, and when he had to open it up he just threw a vent covers to cover the holes. ghetto but surprisingly effective way to cheaply mask holes. i recall when i placed my couch and TV i could look up and see the hole inthe ceiling because of how the cover's louvers were aligned. so i rotated the cover 180 poof i no longer notice it

if i were building new it'd be an unfinished 9 ft basement for me. TV's work and couches are still comfortable in unfinished basements.


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Billy, I have noticed once the kids are in college and you are way past huge family parties a finished basement is not used a ton. Save money with a nice giant area rug and a couch in a new Norm Abram's level work room I say.

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