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The tweet doesn't line up with the video. She actually started the call quite calmly and matter of factly then
escalated mid call. She clearly knew what she was doing the second she told him how it was gonna go down (I'm going to call the cops and tell them an AA is threatening me). It was Larry bird-esque.



I'm not sure how she thought that was gonna work when he filmed the whole thing. Maybe she figured they'd have a knee on his neck and bust up his phone with their jackboots.

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I don't feel sorry for her, but I don't really think she should have been doxxed so that her employer got involved. She's an asshole, no doubt. I'm glad they took her dog.

But if you think about it, the whole thing started off with the guy being the Karen. I'm not big on citizen policing. I see people breaking rules all the time and I just maybe grumble and walk away. That's probably the best policy if you don't want to be getting in stupid beefs like that all the time.

I guess you have to say something, though. I'd hate to think that we have to suppress our annoyance for people who just don't give a shit about the rules. It might be smart, though given the number of touchy, entitled, and crazy people out there, to just find an official who gets paid to intervene (or alert one later).

But I'd rather not be restrained by politeness when someone else is doing something wrong, which in this case the woman was.



There's a fine line between standing up for yourself and becoming the old man yelling at the cloud, though.

I remember once I was at the park with my ex-wife's kid who was probably three or four at the time. He wanted to use the playground equipment and the slide but there was a group of surly teenagers maybe 13 or 14 year olds sitting on it. I asked them to move and one of them told me to go fuck myself. I don't remember exactly what I did, but I know it wasn't what I wanted to do which was knock the teeth down all three of their throats. I probably just drove to a different park. I know I didn't bother the police.

But the kids didn't try to get you in trouble because you were a black guy, did they?


Who knows what might have happened if I had pushed the issue? I could have been the creepy old white guy who was fucking with poor innocent teenagers.

We're talking about not having it get to that point. I'm not saying the guy was wrong for asking her to leash her dog. But sometimes it's better to just walk away right. Which is what he did in the end anyway. So why go through all the other bullshit?

Not sure this is the issue.


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People in America walk around angry as fuck just waiting, desperately waiting, for somebody to wrong them in some trivial way so they can blow up. From there all bets are off, once you get two Americans spatting there's literally no line that can be crossed.


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People in America walk around angry as fuck just waiting, desperately waiting, for somebody to wrong them in some trivial way so they can blow up. From there all bets are off, once you get two Americans spatting there's literally no line that can be crossed.

Do you ever make comments that are able to be supported by evidence? They do, very cleverly, often have the appearance of truth. I have to hand it to you there.


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Not sure this is the issue.


It's certainly part of the issue. If you just want to say she's a racist patriot who lied to a police dispatcher, fine. What do you think the punishment for that should be? Losing your job and your dog? I'm not crying for her. I just don't think that's a policy any of us really want to live by.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
The tweet doesn't line up with the video. She actually started the call quite calmly and matter of factly then
escalated mid call. She clearly knew what she was doing the second she told him how it was gonna go down (I'm going to call the cops and tell them an AA is threatening me). It was Larry bird-esque.



I'm not sure how she thought that was gonna work when he filmed the whole thing. Maybe she figured they'd have a knee on his neck and bust up his phone with their jackboots.

Expecting people to be rational, especially at moments like these, will always disappoint us.


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People in America walk around angry as fuck just waiting, desperately waiting, for somebody to wrong them in some trivial way so they can blow up. From there all bets are off, once you get two Americans spatting there's literally no line that can be crossed.

Do you ever make comments that are able to be supported by evidence? They do, very cleverly, often have the appearance of truth. I have to hand it to you there.

Didn't you just earlier in the thread presume the woman wasn't threatened because she "filed a false report" with police, without a shred of evidence that the woman wasn't actually threatened. In fact, you went so far as to make your lack of evidence another charge unto itself: there's no evidence of her feeling threatened, thus she wasn't threatened and thus her claim of being threatened was false.

Now THAT'S some sleight of hand.


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People who don't keep their dog on a leash get what they deserve.

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People in America walk around angry as fuck just waiting, desperately waiting, for somebody to wrong them in some trivial way so they can blow up. From there all bets are off, once you get two Americans spatting there's literally no line that can be crossed.

Do you ever make comments that are able to be supported by evidence? They do, very cleverly, often have the appearance of truth. I have to hand it to you there.

Didn't you just earlier in the thread presume the woman wasn't threatened because she "filed a false report" with police, without a shred of evidence that the woman wasn't actually threatened. In fact, you went so far as to make your lack of evidence another charge unto itself: there's no evidence of her feeling threatened, thus she wasn't threatened and thus her claim of being threatened was false.

Now THAT'S some sleight of hand.

I'm thinking about that. I'd say no.


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People who don't keep their dog on a leash get what they deserve.

Yeah, theres’s nothing “Karen” about telling someone to leash their dog in a public park. It’s rude as fuck to those around you not to.

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Victim mentality of American blacks meets the entitlement mentality of American white women, its not really surprising that it gets out of control. I didn't watch the video (I dont really care to), why take the dog? That feels a bit cruel.


I haven't seen the video yet either but I read that she abused the dog.

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If the dude had the dog off the leash and was calling police to complain he was being harassed by 'Karen', she still would have been dragged on Twitter. She was screwed once he started filming regardless of the fact that he instigated it. She should have shut her mouth, put the leash on the dog and taken her impure thoughts back to her palatial apartment on 5th avenue.


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Get me out of this shithole country where some stranger can levy a threat like this to ruin your fucking life, and then exercise it because the online mob basically runs the country.


The guy is a fucking birdwatcher. How serious of a threat can he be? Was he gonna untie his sweater and accost her?


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This story has MANY feeling all mixed up!

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Victim mentality of American blacks meets the entitlement mentality of American white women, its not really surprising that it gets out of control. I didn't watch the video (I dont really care to), why take the dog? That feels a bit cruel.


I haven't seen the video yet either but I read that she abused the dog.

I find this kinda hard to believe.


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I read the story and thought the penalty may have been too harsh. After watching the video I feel COMPLETELY different. She got everything she deserved.

If I were a dispatcher I would have really believed that some crazy black dude (possibly a rapist) was about to harm a woman and her dog. I would have passed that urgent information on to officers. Those officers could have rightly come in hot and killed the guy.

Her entitled ass used racial fears to make a false police report and damn near hanged her dog in the process. She is absolute scum and Carlton did nothing wrong.

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I read the story and thought the penalty may have been too harsh. After watching the video I feel COMPLETELY different. She got everything she deserved.

If I were a dispatcher I would have really believed that some crazy black dude (possibly a rapist) was about to harm a woman and her dog. I would have passed that urgent information on to officers. Those officers could have rightly come in hot and killed the guy.

Her entitled ass used racial fears to make a false police report and damn near hanged her dog in the process. She is absolute scum and Carlton did nothing wrong.


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I read the story and thought the penalty may have been too harsh. After watching the video I feel COMPLETELY different. She got everything she deserved.

If I were a dispatcher I would have really believed that some crazy black dude (possibly a rapist) was about to harm a woman and her dog. I would have passed that urgent information on to officers. Those officers could have rightly come in hot and killed the guy.

Her entitled ass used racial fears to make a false police report and damn near hanged her dog in the process. She is absolute scum and Carlton did nothing wrong.

^^^This.

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Come on.

He was a puss for complaining about the dog.

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I trust Nas' judgment, I'm glad he watched the video so I dont have to.

I still dont know if this is a healthy way to run a society though. Everyone filming each other all the time for the amusement of an online mob that gets its rocks off destroying lives.


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I don't know if it would necessarily be classified as abuse or not, but she was jerking that dog around pretty good by yanking and pulling his collar. He definitely was not a happy dog during that time.

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I read the story and thought the penalty may have been too harsh. After watching the video I feel COMPLETELY different. She got everything she deserved.

If I were a dispatcher I would have really believed that some crazy black dude (possibly a rapist) was about to harm a woman and her dog. I would have passed that urgent information on to officers. Those officers could have rightly come in hot and killed the guy.

Her entitled ass used racial fears to make a false police report and damn near hanged her dog in the process. She is absolute scum and Carlton did nothing wrong.

She deserves it but I got a heart. She's not all there and I worry there may be too many pills in her medicine cabinet.


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This was a big fucking nothing. No one should be fired. No one should have called the police. And filming to dox people? Thus is such a stupid incident.

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After watching the unedited video on Twitter I'm more sure she's a calculating Karen with some latent biases. That said, I still can't get to the firing thing. Maybe if I'm her workplace I'm consulting with the lawyers due to the phone call to 911 - that's another egregious thing we're not focusing on here. Dumb bitch wasted resources reporting a birdwatcher with too much time on his hands. Is that what 911 is for? Threatened people don't walk up to the alleged threat like she did in the video (he had to tell her to get back). If you're threatened you retreat and call from a distance. She practically called the police while sitting in his lap. So that's a bunch of bullshit. Again though can't see the dismissal. Perhaps leave without pay and some sensitivity training. That's if the false 911 call isn't enough to terminate.

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Maybe in the future she'll end up getting a new leash on life.

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After watching the unedited video on Twitter I'm more sure she's a calculating Karen with some latent biases. That said, I still can't get to the firing thing. Maybe if I'm her workplace I'm consulting with the lawyers due to the phone call to 911 - that's another egregious thing we're not focusing on here. Dumb patriot wasted resources reporting a birdwatcher with too much time on his hands. Is that what 911 is for? Threatened people don't walk up to the alleged threat like she did in the video (he had to tell her to get back). If you're threatened you retreat and call from a distance. She practically called the police while sitting in his lap. So that's a bunch of bullshit. Again though can't see the dismissal. Perhaps leave without pay and some sensitivity training. That's if the false 911 call isn't enough to terminate.

Sure. I understand that a company might get pushback for keeping her, but why they would let some online people dictate their decisions is beyond me. Even announcing that they fired her seems to be (in this case, with her public shaming) a bit of an invasion of her privacy. Let the legal system take care of justice, not an outrage mob or a soulless corporation that is willing to sacrifice people.

She certainly seemed to be the more aggressive one here, though. She got caught.


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Maybe in the future she'll end up getting a new leash on life.

Reminds me. I hate how people on this thread spelled dog as "dog." It's d-a-w-g, patriots.


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Maybe in the future she'll end up getting a new leash on life.

Reminds me. I hate how people on this thread spelled dog as "dog." It's d-a-w-g, patriots.


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After watching the unedited video on Twitter I'm more sure she's a calculating Karen with some latent biases. That said, I still can't get to the firing thing. Maybe if I'm her workplace I'm consulting with the lawyers due to the phone call to 911 - that's another egregious thing we're not focusing on here. Dumb patriot wasted resources reporting a birdwatcher with too much time on his hands. Is that what 911 is for? Threatened people don't walk up to the alleged threat like she did in the video (he had to tell her to get back). If you're threatened you retreat and call from a distance. She practically called the police while sitting in his lap. So that's a bunch of bullshit. Again though can't see the dismissal. Perhaps leave without pay and some sensitivity training. That's if the false 911 call isn't enough to terminate.


My guess is they were looking for an excuse to fire her and seized on the opportunity.

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